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20. but why was the door thing picked and used as it was. in that very post was a definition and

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Sun Mar 17, 2013, 09:56 AM

Mar 2013

explanation what it is. people repeatedly explained and it was ignored.

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For those of you who mock benevolent sexism.. [View all] sufrommich Mar 2013 OP

That's not benevolent sexism...that's a violation of law. He deserved to be sued. nt msanthrope Mar 2013 #1

It's both. I probably could have sued,although sufrommich Mar 2013 #4

No--I think that's hostile, and not benevolent. I think denying anyone benefit on the basis msanthrope Mar 2013 #7

Honestly GaYellowDawg Mar 2013 #9

No,I knew this man for years. We talked sufrommich Mar 2013 #15

"He had no right to do." Precisely. That's where it crosses the line between benevolent and msanthrope Mar 2013 #31

that is exactly the definition and effects of benevolent sexism. and if anyone bothered to read seabeyond Mar 2013 #19

and therein lies much of the practical problem with enforcing employment law unblock Mar 2013 #25

Agreed. This looks like an employment discrimination LittleBlue Mar 2013 #30

It's both. The guy was willing to break the law to protect her safety. n/t lumberjack_jeff Mar 2013 #33

I wonder if he understood he was breaking the law. And I never presume an intent msanthrope Mar 2013 #34

Okay, it's apparent that he was conflicted. lumberjack_jeff Mar 2013 #38

That's a possibility pipi_k Mar 2013 #42

She could have sued if she and others left alone at night were subject to msanthrope Mar 2013 #43

So... pipi_k Mar 2013 #47

No,he was concerned for my safety. I've made that clear. sufrommich Mar 2013 #49

People,male and female,work alone sufrommich Mar 2013 #48

DU Rec. Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2013 #2

Golly sufrommich, Helen Reddy Mar 2013 #3

I'm afraid my HVAC knowledge doesn't sufrommich Mar 2013 #8

Sorry to ask this GaYellowDawg Mar 2013 #10

You should never let filters go. Dirty filters sufrommich Mar 2013 #16

I know. It was a dumb mistake. GaYellowDawg Mar 2013 #35

great illustration of some of the long-term effects of the attitudes behind benevolent sexism unblock Mar 2013 #5

But... Sheldon Cooper Mar 2013 #6

lol Helen Reddy Mar 2013 #12

Ugh... sibelian Mar 2013 #11

I'm glad you get it.Thanks. nt sufrommich Mar 2013 #17

but why was the door thing picked and used as it was. in that very post was a definition and seabeyond Mar 2013 #20

Good example but will go 50% on it The Straight Story Mar 2013 #13

True. DU needs to learn boston bean Mar 2013 #14

of course it is. barbtries Mar 2013 #18

Thats just old fasioned sexism, not benevolent. To be belevolent you would have had to get a job Exultant Democracy Mar 2013 #21

i think it's "dominative paternalism" -- here is a categorization of sexism (link): unblock Mar 2013 #22

It's meant to be benevolent, hence the term. wryter2000 Mar 2013 #23

They didn't do something nice, they denied a raise and promotion Exultant Democracy Mar 2013 #24

In their mind, they were doing something for good kind reasons. boston bean Mar 2013 #27

No they knew they were not giving a promotion and raise its pretty simple. Exultant Democracy Mar 2013 #29

Again, from the person doing it they thought they were being kind, how they were raised, etc. boston bean Mar 2013 #51

Forget it. There are none so blind...n/t wryter2000 Mar 2013 #54

I put the kabosh on something similar but not sexism. I was a warehouse supervisor brewens Mar 2013 #26

i got hosed at my last job on multiple occasions due to not having kids fizzgig Mar 2013 #40

There was "ladies-only" employee parking at my old job MindPilot Mar 2013 #28

Recommended. The flipside of that example is... lumberjack_jeff Mar 2013 #32

See also: restrictions on jobs available to women who *might* become pregnant one day. geek tragedy Mar 2013 #36

from my own experience hfojvt Mar 2013 #37

I'm sorry to hear that. I'm retired now but sufrommich Mar 2013 #50

That's exactly what it is treestar Mar 2013 #39

Yes. As I said, I was a single Mom and sufrommich Mar 2013 #52

What is the answer then ? Purplehazed Mar 2013 #41

Divide and conquer is... 99Forever Mar 2013 #44

That's just regular sexism... Melon_Lord Mar 2013 #45

People can call it sexism pipi_k Mar 2013 #46

Yes, lets keep women safe by preventing them full access and rights? boston bean Mar 2013 #53

OK, how about this then... pipi_k Mar 2013 #56

A perfect example of benevolent sexism, and its insidious and very real ability to undermine. Kurovski Mar 2013 #55

Maybe... pipi_k Mar 2013 #57

pipi, you are suggesting depriving a woman of a job to keep her "safe" may not be sexist and if it seabeyond Mar 2013 #59

There are so many people who read these arguments and just stay out of it, Kurovski Mar 2013 #60

i guess, seabeyond Mar 2013 #58

People can argue about whether this was benevolent or not, but it was definitely illegal. Nye Bevan Mar 2013 #61