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In reply to the discussion: Why are some men so upset with the idea that treating women differently can promote and teach Sexism. [View all]MattBaggins
(7,948 posts)45. Oh please
You do X more for women then men and you are sexist and harming women overall is the general idea.
This is by no means the general idea and I think you know that.
It is the idea that even the most simplest of things is something we have to pause and ponder over before doing what to so many comes natural.
Why do you say this as if it is a bad thing? One SHOULD examine their own prejudices and cultural norms. It is a great self development tool.
Growing up your mom tells you it is polite to open doors for women and let them go first. She is a woman. You trust her. You come here and find out your mom was a repressed sexist person who is stupid and only the smart folks here can make the world right and teach you the true paths.
Your world view is questioned so you become defensive and lash out. It is OK to question what mom and dad taught you.
It's as though some people have a vested interest in being outraged and need to find ways to justify their position/job/etc so then spend hours pouring over every action possible to find a way to show how they are being repressed.
Now this is just out of line. I'm sorry Mr. Story but you are one of the kings of faux outrage on DU. You post more than your own share of dubious and down right silly stories based on faked outrage. You yourself are quite proficient at strawman construction and the ensuing fist waving.
I won't hold a door open for any woman anymore. Or let them cut ahead in line (and I didn't yesterday at save-a-lot). My mom was an evil repressed dumbass and now I am ashamed of her and all she taught me because she obviously hated and wanted to repress other women. I am not even sure at this point if me having sex only with women is sexist or not because it means I treat them different - why DON'T I want to have sex with men? Is it because I like power and see women as weaker?
Again get defensive and lash out when challenged. When that isn't enough make sure to follow up with a ridiculous non sequitor about sex and sexual orientation.
Question everything because even telling a woman she looks nice, or 'hot', is repressing and deeply hurting them. I don't tell men they look hot. So yes, I have learned a lot in this whole debate.
Women are constant victims and some of the poor ladies don't even know it. Next time I see some dumb ass man hold open a door for one, help them with something, I will rush over and apologize to them on behalf of more intelligent and progressive men who should know better.
This is asinine and you can do much better than that.
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Why are some men so upset with the idea that treating women differently can promote and teach Sexism. [View all]
Notafraidtoo
Mar 2013
OP
I get the feeling judging by some of the names popping up in those other discussions
Arcanetrance
Mar 2013
#1
That 'theory' is right up there with Trump's Obama Birth Certificate theory.
TheBlackAdder
Mar 2013
#296
I was sitting in the doctor's office the other day chatting with a man I didn't know ...
polly7
Mar 2013
#317
I think where the problem lies is folks assigning motivations to others ad hoc
The Straight Story
Mar 2013
#4
As a woman, I approve this message. Some vested outraged persons would do well to remember,
txwhitedove
Mar 2013
#11
except there was no outrage. except it was a thread straighstory put up about boobs that introduced
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#26
Try speaking with kind words instead of harsh. The only outrage I had read is your harsher words,
txwhitedove
Mar 2013
#147
bah hahahah. thank you so much. at first i thought this was gonna be serious
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#158
she is so awesomely brilliant and so young. we have a lot of years of her voice.
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#311
a year ago or so i was bummed, looking at the state of our youthful feminism. but,
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#319
And again, you were the one who brought up the opening of doors in that thread.
NaturalHigh
Mar 2013
#176
um, weren't you just complaining about people assigning motivations to others?
fishwax
Mar 2013
#224
I think where the problem lies in BS distortions of what other posters have said n/t
fishwax
Mar 2013
#222
I am a feminist woman, and I have no problem with being treated "differently."
Honeycombe8
Mar 2013
#5
I have examined them and do not find they are sexist. (I don't know what traditions in etiquette
Honeycombe8
Mar 2013
#197
Then don't remove your hat, dude. No one's making you. Women don't have to remove
Honeycombe8
Mar 2013
#259
Exactly. Men and women are different. There is nothing wrong with recognizing that. (nt)
nessa
Mar 2013
#185
Great post. Many people simply cannot tell the difference between the two
TimberValley
Mar 2013
#288
my bad. a man asked what it was. i provided a definition. i am the jerk. amazing. fucking amazing.nt
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#28
this started with that. ground floor. the threads took off. men outraged by feminists outrage
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#74
Why the hell did "we" feel the need to do anything about benevolent sexism, seabeyond?
kdmorris
Mar 2013
#100
a man asked what it was. i gave examples and definitions. outrage and lies ensued.
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#107
btw... this was just brought to my attention. i wanted to say, good, thanks for letting me know.
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#324
Ugh, no. Framing. The framing is utterly, disgustingly dishonest. And that is a right wing tactic.
redqueen
Mar 2013
#146
I haven't seen ANY man here upset with the idea that treating women differently can promote
polly7
Mar 2013
#13
one simple response of one example in a boob subthread that discussed benevolent sexism, used to
boston bean
Mar 2013
#37
amazing you, every man that started thread on doors about feminist outrage leaves out the definition
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#65
you think you have a gotcha moment? i put an example and definition. then the men start OPs saying
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#80
Who said that feminists are outraged? And where? And who are "we feminists" anyway?
Orrex
Mar 2013
#86
So, you are free to declare my intent for me, but no one else is allowed to infer your intent?
Orrex
Mar 2013
#103
i am allowed to have an opinion. and i clearly put it up as my opinion. again,
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#111
Similarly, I can't believe that you're really the absurd caricature that you paint yourself to be
Orrex
Mar 2013
#119
i already provided the info for you in your very long thread you deleted about doors. here is a link
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#54
people can read it. i stand by it. ya, a game. two days of a fuckin game. i stand
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#85
i did not post an opinion. i posted examples and a definition. and i did not tell anyone they
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#104
no. i didnt set the bar. others did toward any woman that tried to bring reason to the conversation
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#116
I think we all (including the person who said it) would agree that it was an reductionist example.
lumberjack_jeff
Mar 2013
#145
yes, these men on du focused on the doors to trivialize feminism. you got it just right.
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#40
I certainly get the feeling some are trying to alienate democrats from feminists.
boston bean
Mar 2013
#96
Your thoughts on this are anathema to how I feel about this whole debacle.
boston bean
Mar 2013
#221
Your year later apology so that you could play victim when someone reminded you of the
polly7
Mar 2013
#265
You stalk me with this in every single thread you and I have a discussion in.
boston bean
Mar 2013
#270
The reason men and women latched onto the door example is to avoid the point.
lumberjack_jeff
Mar 2013
#142
The posters collectively were responding to a concept of their own invention.
lumberjack_jeff
Mar 2013
#162
Eh ....... seeing the same old lies about what actually did or didn't start all of this
polly7
Mar 2013
#314
And to have a few DUers calling the people trying to clarify that fact 'trolls'...
redqueen
Mar 2013
#183
What art of gender neutral are you also having a problem understanding?
nadinbrzezinski
Mar 2013
#194
"I expect this observation to be...once again, destroyed at the event horizon."
zappaman
Mar 2013
#307
it was examples and a definition. the reaction played many. you participate. i stand with the OP
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#51
some people are willing to sit in a lie. i have never been willing to do that.
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#98
"a similar thing happened during the recent discussions about white privilege"
redqueen
Mar 2013
#154
Thanks, it's always refreshing when men express puzzlement over the same things we
Zorra
Mar 2013
#138
I think it crosses the line between fighting for a cause, and fighting just because.
Ian David
Mar 2013
#156
That would be a good observation, IF there were a single person here that holds that view.
lumberjack_jeff
Mar 2013
#160
Why are some feminists so upset with the reality that there are differences between sexes and
leeroysphitz
Mar 2013
#171
Tks! But your reasonable post is addressed to those who just love making fun of this
bettyellen
Mar 2013
#179
i'm a woman and i can't do everything some other women can do , there are things i can do that guys
JI7
Mar 2013
#320
but I have been to Moclips/Humptulips though.. recently even.. got some nice razor clams last weeken
opiate69
Mar 2013
#289
Property is pretty cheap, but you gotta BYOE (bring your own employment)
lumberjack_jeff
Mar 2013
#297
Holy shit! Dont tell my wife about that.. she`ll be making it happen hell or highwater lol
opiate69
Mar 2013
#302
There is a very good case to be made that treating the genders differently IS sexism. n/t
lumberjack_jeff
Mar 2013
#271