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In reply to the discussion: Why are some men so upset with the idea that treating women differently can promote and teach Sexism. [View all]marions ghost
(19,841 posts)Maybe the anger and resentment here stems from the mixed messages--ie. women want to have doors opened for them but they insist on other forms of equality. It causes some dissonance. There is less tolerance for ambiguity and contradictions maybe? Men DO know when they are being sexist. I assume (hope) most men around here don't perpetrate a lot of overt, blatant sexist behavior. So why be so defensive when subtle forms of sexism are pointed out?
How about the angry guy below--"Chivalry = the act of a self-deluded sucker." Should we adhere to old mores that cause resentment on the part of some women (and some men)? Can men be merely nice without adhering to notions of chivalry?
How about the last entry? Many travesties of justice, self-destruction, and the concealment and promotion of evil have come from the chivalry of fools. I think of the BFEE. Do progressive men NOT get the connection?
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From Urban Dictionary
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=chivalry
chivalry
something that's dead and should stay dead.
Son: Daddy, why do I have to let her go first? she's a creep to everybody.
Dad: Because, when somebody has a certain chemical called estrogen in their body, they automatically deserve more respect than you. It's called chauvinism, I mean chivalry.
Son: BULLCRAP!!
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2. chivalry
Something that people always say is dead, but no one seams to know what the hell died..
"Sarah likes Big Macs!"
"And they say Chivalry is dead.."
3. Chivalry
Something women complain is dead even though it cannot logically exist in an equal society, which is something women wanted. It's one or the other.
Jesse lamented about the death of chivalry while she lambasted the days when men oppressed women which was a time when chivalry was common. Makes perfect sense.
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4. Chivalry
women killed it... they don't like when we are nice to them anymore (so fuck opening the doors, taking their jacket, or telling them they are beautiful)
haha, yes !
"Would you like to go to dinner?"
-later that evening while she is chillin with her girls-
"this guy asked me to dinner, i am just gonna say i am busy."
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5. chivalry
Choosing to not rape a woman, just because you want to.
Me: "Hey, Jonathan, that bitch is fine."
Jonathan: "Yeah, but in the name of chivalry, we probably shouldn't rape her."
Me: "Yeah, you're right. Damn it."
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6. chivalry
The act of a self-deluded sucker. Self-destructive self-sacrifice in favor of those seeking to exploit or destroy the practioner. Self-debasement to those seeking exploitive profit and lack of due recriprocation. Often stupidly misconstrued by those practicing as honorable or altuistic.
Many travesties of justice, self-destruction, and the concealment and promotion of evil have come from the chivalry of fools.
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