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TheBlackAdder

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15. Don't think like the Sith. Not everything is Black & White.

Sun Mar 17, 2013, 03:10 PM

Mar 2013

Male children are generally born with a predominance of male gender.

Female children are generally born with a predominance of female gender.

There are always exceptions to the rule and blends as we are talking about nature, biology and evolution.

The reinforcement of gender stereotypes tends to mask these characteristics as being non-standard.

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You cannot teach a boy to not want to play with dolls.

They might hide it from you, they might play with male-oriented toys to placate you, but they will still like to play with dolls if/until they outgrow that desire. That's the difference here. Teaching someone and reinforcing their behavior to fit a specific mold versus the traits they have when they are born.

When my kids were born, they immediately gravitated to their gender roles without influence.

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Holding a door open, and related "benevolent sexist" acts [View all] Honeycombe8 Mar 2013 OP

I disagree that gender is biological. boston bean Mar 2013 #1

Driving from Frys yesterday with my daughter she was talking about her new hat... snooper2 Mar 2013 #2

What does this mean? Your daughter like polka dots and knows boston bean Mar 2013 #3

beats me I just thought it was interesting... snooper2 Mar 2013 #6

Sorry...that is a matter of science. CT scans can show you. As well as xrays of the body. Honeycombe8 Mar 2013 #4

Of course there are physical biological differences. boston bean Mar 2013 #9

Thanks boston bean. MadrasT Mar 2013 #12

Out of curiosity... Orrex Mar 2013 #44

Today I saw someone post that females are naturally more nuturing. redqueen Mar 2013 #21

You're making stuff up, now, that you've been shown to be wrong. Honeycombe8 Mar 2013 #25

Oh thank you MattBaggins Mar 2013 #31

Even those scientific facts are misused... ljm2002 Mar 2013 #23

You're getting sidetracked. That's not what the OP is about. It's about customary etiquette &manners Honeycombe8 Mar 2013 #26

You broadened the discussion by what seemed an implication MattBaggins Mar 2013 #32

Excuse me??? ljm2002 Mar 2013 #45

It's been proven Orrex Mar 2013 #46

Gender is definitely not taught. It's reinforced perhaps, but not taught! TheBlackAdder Mar 2013 #5

Do you think that's universal? How come some people are transgender and others are MillennialDem Mar 2013 #13

Don't think like the Sith. Not everything is Black & White. TheBlackAdder Mar 2013 #15

Did you raise them on an island with no exposure to the outside world? redqueen Mar 2013 #20

Or is just depends on how good your parenting skills are. nt TheBlackAdder Mar 2013 #22

How does that matter? You can counter the message, but you can't eliminate it. redqueen Mar 2013 #37

I guess the influences you expose your kids to are more influential/altering than the ones I do. nt TheBlackAdder Mar 2013 #38

Unless you're blindfolding them when you go out in public, redqueen Mar 2013 #39

You really need to relax. TheBlackAdder Mar 2013 #40

How old do kids need to be before they go out into the world? redqueen Mar 2013 #41

You've missed the points I'd made and you just want to have a conflict. TheBlackAdder Mar 2013 #42

"You cannot teach a boy to not want to play with dolls" MattBaggins Mar 2013 #33

You can teach him not to play with dolls, but the hidden desire exists. TheBlackAdder Mar 2013 #34

I agree with you MattBaggins Mar 2013 #35

Come on... You've got to give me props for that. TheBlackAdder Mar 2013 #36

I recommend you read the book "As Nature Made Him" by John Colapinto. tammywammy Mar 2013 #14

Still not convincing. Very sad and awful thing that was done to him. boston bean Mar 2013 #16

Wait, I think you just stated that you will not believe "x" because Warren Stupidity Mar 2013 #17

The issue is broad brushing either sex with what society says how a man boston bean Mar 2013 #19

if gender isn't biological, how are the folks over at factcheckme going to figure out Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #24

As I type this, my daughter-in-law is in my shop changing the axles in her Cobalt. lumberjack_jeff Mar 2013 #28

inshallah datasuspect Mar 2013 #7

??? What does this have to do with customary etiquette and manners in the U.S.? nt Honeycombe8 Mar 2013 #27

Well said! LittleBlue Mar 2013 #8

Thx! nt Honeycombe8 Mar 2013 #29

Nice post. Lisa D Mar 2013 #10

Thanks. I love that movie. Tevya was great. nt Honeycombe8 Mar 2013 #30

Thanks. Nice post. NaturalHigh Mar 2013 #11

You are right, the door thing is not a big issue Whisp Mar 2013 #18

I prefer this version of the song in the OP Demo_Chris Mar 2013 #43