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love_katz

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64. All forms of discrimination and injustice hurt us all.
Sun Mar 17, 2013, 06:51 PM
Mar 2013

And, the current social standards and the ways that society's rewards are handed out perpetuates the discrimination and injustice.

If we want it to change...then we need to first acknowledge that unfair discrimination exists. Once it is acknowledged, then we can begin the work needed to change it.

The problem is that we are too often convinced (by those who actually benefit from the system continuing on unchanged) that we would lose anything worth having, by working towards justice for all.

The Robber Barons who benefit by the current system are not going to point out to us the lies and inaccuracies in what they pay the media to tell us. It is most unfortunate that we (unwittingly) cooperate in this process by being more concerned about what we think we might lose if there was justice for all, including making things right for groups that have been discriminated against.

It can help to look at what we might gain by working for justice for all.

And, yeah, that can take some time, a lot of introspection, some research, and the courage to face the truth, as well as a willingness to change.

I really believe that these issues, along with learning to live sustainably with the earth, are the most important survival issues that we face.

There won't be much chance at cooperation if we don't deal with eliminating unfair discrimination, and working together is desperately needed if humankind is to solve the many challenges facing us both now and in the near future.

I would love to see things change, where a woman can be valued for her talents and her basic self, instead of her value as an incubator for some man's sperm, or her looks, or any of the other sexist garbage which allows society to oppress us and treat us as disposable.

I would love to see things change, where everyone, men as well as women, had opportunities for good, satisfying jobs, instead of the military being one of the few options for training and schooling. I would like it if men could be accepted for their talents and basic selves, instead of for some Rambo-style blow-up doll kind of behavior and phony personality.

Bigotry hurts us all, social injustice hurts us all, and so does destruction of the environment and a refusal to share the earth fairly with the other beings who live here with us.

Denial does not fix any of that...and I am not referring to that river in Egypt.

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My take on sexism [View all] libtodeath Mar 2013 OP
Trashing thread #15... UnrepentantLiberal Mar 2013 #1
Oh,that so hurts me libtodeath Mar 2013 #2
Oh course you can. UnrepentantLiberal Mar 2013 #3
Please do then n/t libtodeath Mar 2013 #4
of course you are. trumad Mar 2013 #5
... redqueen Mar 2013 #28
No man has ever been criticized for his "body shape or appearance"? Nye Bevan Mar 2013 #6
Fair enough and now thinking I worded that wrong but still does not change the fact libtodeath Mar 2013 #8
OK, that I can agree with. Nye Bevan Mar 2013 #11
The criticism of Chris Christie comes to mind loyalsister Mar 2013 #12
You beat me to it. NaturalHigh Mar 2013 #13
Sexism will not go away until men speak to men --in these terms marions ghost Mar 2013 #7
someone should speak to him about his room arely staircase Mar 2013 #9
Kind of what I was thinking. NaturalHigh Mar 2013 #14
Yeah whut a Spongebob marions ghost Mar 2013 #17
huh? he is a slob! arely staircase Mar 2013 #19
He's married marions ghost Mar 2013 #25
wow - way tmi! arely staircase Mar 2013 #26
I don't know I'll ask em marions ghost Mar 2013 #30
well we know he had four minutes and 8 seconds free recently arely staircase Mar 2013 #36
I talked to him and he sent this pic marions ghost Mar 2013 #40
what? arely staircase Mar 2013 #41
OK so he cleaned up and is waiting for his doggie treat: marions ghost Mar 2013 #46
well done, the cleaning (or given the tight framing i still suspect a disaster off-sceen) arely staircase Mar 2013 #50
So glad you agree he makes good points marions ghost Mar 2013 #70
i am pretty sure that neither i nor other men are the intended target audience eom arely staircase Mar 2013 #71
OK so you're not a guy? marions ghost Mar 2013 #72
that was a joke, implying he was doing it to impress his girlfriend arely staircase Mar 2013 #73
I'll second that--date-raping is so ungentlemanly marions ghost Mar 2013 #74
"Never are we called into question or dismissed for our body shape or appearance." zappaman Mar 2013 #10
"Never are we called into question or dismissed for our body shape or appearance." NaturalHigh Mar 2013 #15
Read what I wrote above about choosing words better libtodeath Mar 2013 #18
Seizing on minor quibbles, focusing on them to the exclusion of the message, and nitpicking an issue redqueen Mar 2013 #29
Yes, such minor quibbles we have. NaturalHigh Mar 2013 #45
I have been on DU since 2001 and have only 2 people on ignore MattBaggins Mar 2013 #51
Add me then too because I dont want a misogynist any where near me libtodeath Mar 2013 #55
I'm fairly certain I am not a misogynist MattBaggins Mar 2013 #65
Never are we called into question or dismissed for our body shape or appearance? arely staircase Mar 2013 #16
An ad from the 50s (?) when women were expected to shut up and cook dinner is your reply? libtodeath Mar 2013 #20
The 50s? I remember seeing ads just like that when I was a kid in the 80s. opiate69 Mar 2013 #22
lol arely staircase Mar 2013 #23
Is it wrong to laugh at this? LittleBlue Mar 2013 #21
my dad said he actually ordered the charles atlas book arely staircase Mar 2013 #24
Thank you, libtodeath. love_katz Mar 2013 #27
+++++ marions ghost Mar 2013 #32
Look at some of the replies here that fixate on a admitted poorly worded phrase libtodeath Mar 2013 #33
A bottomless ocean of sad. love_katz Mar 2013 #34
I'm sorry for being born male RantinRavin Mar 2013 #31
That is not the point. love_katz Mar 2013 #37
LOL Skittles Mar 2013 #76
Pardon me for having an outie. 99Forever Mar 2013 #35
Being silent fixes it? libtodeath Mar 2013 #39
Brow beating your allies is such a brilliant strategy. 99Forever Mar 2013 #42
Pretending it doesnt exist helps no one get beyond it. libtodeath Mar 2013 #43
Pretending to know what others think makes one a fool. 99Forever Mar 2013 #44
What you think is pretty obvious libtodeath Mar 2013 #47
Really? 99Forever Mar 2013 #48
Trying to pretend cultural sexism does not exist speaks for itself libtodeath Mar 2013 #49
Not even close. 99Forever Mar 2013 #52
Not you libtodeath Mar 2013 #56
Thank you for that. 99Forever Mar 2013 #59
Yeah,I can hold my head high libtodeath Mar 2013 #61
Well alrighty then. 99Forever Mar 2013 #63
Glad to see another guy speaking out Arcanetrance Mar 2013 #38
Never called names for being strong or assertive kudzu22 Mar 2013 #53
Another thought which has occurred to me... love_katz Mar 2013 #54
Thanks for this Kalidurga Mar 2013 #57
Look at posts on this thread libtodeath Mar 2013 #60
LOL I did Kalidurga Mar 2013 #66
You also have a bad case of reaction formation upaloopa Mar 2013 #69
What is it that makes a person want to tell upaloopa Mar 2013 #58
Sorry,saying that women should not be treated as inferior is a bad thing? libtodeath Mar 2013 #62
Maybe if I asked but I think inferring that we need your superior intellect because we can't think upaloopa Mar 2013 #67
Reaction formation upaloopa Mar 2013 #68
All forms of discrimination and injustice hurt us all. love_katz Mar 2013 #64
Wrong Springslips Mar 2013 #75
K&R. I think it would be helpful if you removed two sentences in your op. NCTraveler Mar 2013 #77
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