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backscatter712

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19. My primary critique is a partially financial one.
Sun Mar 17, 2013, 10:10 PM
Mar 2013

I don't have a problem with individuals with Catholic faith - most of them are very nice, and most of them do support women's rights and GLBT rights.

BUT...

People have claimed that the money they tithe to their local parishes does not go to the church hierarchy, or to homophobic or misogynistic political campaigns. That's not true.

Tithe money, that good people have given to the church to pay for food banks, schools, homeless shelters, domestic violence programs, etc., as well as the upkeep of their own parishes, has been used to bankroll the vicious campaigns against marriage equality across the country.

http://hrc.org/nomexposed/section/the-catholic-hierarchys-devotion-to-fighting-marriage-equality

The Roman Catholic Hierarchy’s Devotion to Fighting Marriage Equality

The Roman Catholic Church and its affiliate, the Knights of Columbus, played a leading role in funding anti-LGBT equality efforts in the four states where marriage equality was on the ballot this fall. The Church hierarchy invested nearly $2 million in the failed attempts to write discrimination into the Minnesota constitution and stem marriage equality in Maine, Maryland, and Washington. Dioceses from across the country supported these efforts financially, thought it’s doubtful that the parishioners fueling these contributions had any idea that their money was being used to fund discrimination.

According to Public Religion Research Institute, nearly 60 percent of Catholics support marriage equality. And an astounding 83 percent of Catholics in the United States say they don’t feel compelled to vote in accordance with the political preaching of bishops. These numbers from the laity represent people who, whether they know it or not, are living out their faith daily - Catholic social teaching promotes treating everyone with love, dignity, and respect.

But despite the values of the laity, the Catholic Church hierarchy is pouring immense resources into preventing loving, committed same-sex couples from marrying. . In fact, in the wake of last week’s historic victories for equality, the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops doubled down and vowed to continue funding efforts to discriminate against LGBT people. The Roman Catholic Church will make these investments at the same time and with the same dollars that would otherwise go to support soup kitchens, homeless shelters and domestic violence programs.

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Being Catholic- It's Complicated [View all] joesdaughter Mar 2013 OP
I hear the Unitarians and United Church of Christ are very nice. n/t Ian David Mar 2013 #1
Yep, me too. n/t joesdaughter Mar 2013 #2
If you are proposing the Unitarians are a substitute for Catholicism, well Drahthaardogs Mar 2013 #6
I'm just saying there are better ways to get your Jesus-fix that don't hurt anyone. n/t Ian David Mar 2013 #7
And I am saying, at least take the time to offer an alternative Drahthaardogs Mar 2013 #8
Some Evangelical Lutheran Church congregations are progressive. United Church of Christ is Jesus-y. Ian David Mar 2013 #9
No, you specifically posted the Unitarians as an alternative to Catholocism Drahthaardogs Mar 2013 #10
I also suggested United Church of Christ. Who, last time I checked, had something to do with Jesus. Ian David Mar 2013 #12
peoples faith does not just change daily, you would not expect a sunni to just change to buddhist loli phabay Mar 2013 #13
Methodist? Hell, his suggesting would be equivalent to converting to Judiaism Drahthaardogs Mar 2013 #17
Then they're really wasting a lot of money on TV ads and magazines left at the laundromat. n/t Ian David Mar 2013 #23
no not really, the ads etc are aimed at people looking for something, not for people who already hav loli phabay Mar 2013 #25
Again, please just answer the question Drahthaardogs Mar 2013 #14
um, Unitarians have no dogma. kwassa Mar 2013 #18
He is wrong, maybe to the point of being silly Drahthaardogs Mar 2013 #21
no, there is no Unitarian dogma, and there are liberal Lutherans kwassa Mar 2013 #38
No. Check the numbers, and the definition of Dogma Drahthaardogs Mar 2013 #40
I understand. I just don't see why it makes such a big difference. n/t Ian David Mar 2013 #22
Because if you are going to bash a group on DU Drahthaardogs Mar 2013 #24
So, if Catholics voted with their feet, and changed religions, they'd stop voting for Obama? n/t Ian David Mar 2013 #26
Huh? Drahthaardogs Mar 2013 #27
I know. n/t Ian David Mar 2013 #30
Too much green beer huh? Drahthaardogs Mar 2013 #31
The Evangelical Lutheran Church (ELCA) gopiscrap Mar 2013 #28
I think the Catholics voted for gay clergy eons ago... Drahthaardogs Mar 2013 #29
Some Catholic churches Dorian Gray Mar 2013 #34
Everyone who worships Jesus should ask him which church he prefers. eallen Mar 2013 #36
i am sure they are but they are not the catholic faith that the poster was brought up in loli phabay Mar 2013 #5
Being a hard-core atheist, I agree with this. backscatter712 Mar 2013 #32
I am an atheist as well. defacto7 Mar 2013 #35
It's not subscribing to the catholic faith that is a problem. cleanhippie Mar 2013 #3
My Parish joesdaughter Mar 2013 #11
I just posted in another thread on this union_maid Mar 2013 #15
Nicely stated. n/t Beartracks Mar 2013 #33
Individuals have the right to chose their own beliefs. Dawson Leery Mar 2013 #4
you could just ignore it for 6 months snooper2 Mar 2013 #16
My primary critique is a partially financial one. backscatter712 Mar 2013 #19
Finally, an opinion I can get behind. It seems to me that the solution to this ongoing train wreck Egalitarian Thug Mar 2013 #20
Agreed.... defacto7 Mar 2013 #37
I have and have had friends who are Catholic davidpdx Mar 2013 #39
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