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In reply to the discussion: Being Catholic- It's Complicated [View all]backscatter712
(26,357 posts)19. My primary critique is a partially financial one.
I don't have a problem with individuals with Catholic faith - most of them are very nice, and most of them do support women's rights and GLBT rights.
BUT...
People have claimed that the money they tithe to their local parishes does not go to the church hierarchy, or to homophobic or misogynistic political campaigns. That's not true.
Tithe money, that good people have given to the church to pay for food banks, schools, homeless shelters, domestic violence programs, etc., as well as the upkeep of their own parishes, has been used to bankroll the vicious campaigns against marriage equality across the country.
http://hrc.org/nomexposed/section/the-catholic-hierarchys-devotion-to-fighting-marriage-equality
The Roman Catholic Hierarchys Devotion to Fighting Marriage Equality
The Roman Catholic Church and its affiliate, the Knights of Columbus, played a leading role in funding anti-LGBT equality efforts in the four states where marriage equality was on the ballot this fall. The Church hierarchy invested nearly $2 million in the failed attempts to write discrimination into the Minnesota constitution and stem marriage equality in Maine, Maryland, and Washington. Dioceses from across the country supported these efforts financially, thought its doubtful that the parishioners fueling these contributions had any idea that their money was being used to fund discrimination.
According to Public Religion Research Institute, nearly 60 percent of Catholics support marriage equality. And an astounding 83 percent of Catholics in the United States say they dont feel compelled to vote in accordance with the political preaching of bishops. These numbers from the laity represent people who, whether they know it or not, are living out their faith daily - Catholic social teaching promotes treating everyone with love, dignity, and respect.
But despite the values of the laity, the Catholic Church hierarchy is pouring immense resources into preventing loving, committed same-sex couples from marrying. . In fact, in the wake of last weeks historic victories for equality, the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops doubled down and vowed to continue funding efforts to discriminate against LGBT people. The Roman Catholic Church will make these investments at the same time and with the same dollars that would otherwise go to support soup kitchens, homeless shelters and domestic violence programs.
The Roman Catholic Church and its affiliate, the Knights of Columbus, played a leading role in funding anti-LGBT equality efforts in the four states where marriage equality was on the ballot this fall. The Church hierarchy invested nearly $2 million in the failed attempts to write discrimination into the Minnesota constitution and stem marriage equality in Maine, Maryland, and Washington. Dioceses from across the country supported these efforts financially, thought its doubtful that the parishioners fueling these contributions had any idea that their money was being used to fund discrimination.
According to Public Religion Research Institute, nearly 60 percent of Catholics support marriage equality. And an astounding 83 percent of Catholics in the United States say they dont feel compelled to vote in accordance with the political preaching of bishops. These numbers from the laity represent people who, whether they know it or not, are living out their faith daily - Catholic social teaching promotes treating everyone with love, dignity, and respect.
But despite the values of the laity, the Catholic Church hierarchy is pouring immense resources into preventing loving, committed same-sex couples from marrying. . In fact, in the wake of last weeks historic victories for equality, the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops doubled down and vowed to continue funding efforts to discriminate against LGBT people. The Roman Catholic Church will make these investments at the same time and with the same dollars that would otherwise go to support soup kitchens, homeless shelters and domestic violence programs.
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If you are proposing the Unitarians are a substitute for Catholicism, well
Drahthaardogs
Mar 2013
#6
I'm just saying there are better ways to get your Jesus-fix that don't hurt anyone. n/t
Ian David
Mar 2013
#7
Some Evangelical Lutheran Church congregations are progressive. United Church of Christ is Jesus-y.
Ian David
Mar 2013
#9
No, you specifically posted the Unitarians as an alternative to Catholocism
Drahthaardogs
Mar 2013
#10
I also suggested United Church of Christ. Who, last time I checked, had something to do with Jesus.
Ian David
Mar 2013
#12
peoples faith does not just change daily, you would not expect a sunni to just change to buddhist
loli phabay
Mar 2013
#13
Methodist? Hell, his suggesting would be equivalent to converting to Judiaism
Drahthaardogs
Mar 2013
#17
Then they're really wasting a lot of money on TV ads and magazines left at the laundromat. n/t
Ian David
Mar 2013
#23
no not really, the ads etc are aimed at people looking for something, not for people who already hav
loli phabay
Mar 2013
#25
So, if Catholics voted with their feet, and changed religions, they'd stop voting for Obama? n/t
Ian David
Mar 2013
#26
i am sure they are but they are not the catholic faith that the poster was brought up in
loli phabay
Mar 2013
#5
Finally, an opinion I can get behind. It seems to me that the solution to this ongoing train wreck
Egalitarian Thug
Mar 2013
#20