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In reply to the discussion: Can anyone point me to any actual persecution or mass discrimination of Catholics in the US today? [View all]BainsBane
(57,797 posts)29. Here is a summary
"Discrimination Against Catholics
The founders of the United States, like the early population, were almost entirely of Protestant background. Catholicism met much resistance in the United States until sheer numbers forced its integration into American society. A deep anti-Catholic sentiment, inherited from Great Britain, existed in colonial America. Some colonies had laws restricting or banning Catholicism. The settling of the colony of Maryland by English Catholics was perhaps the only exception. At the time of the Revolution, Catholics made up just over one percent of the American population. While the First Amendment to the Constitution guaranteed freedom of religion, it did not compel Protestant Americans to accept Catholic newcomers. Protestants resented Catholicism on theological grounds, often making fun of and belittling Catholic religious rites and customs. The common Christian link between Protestantism and Catholicism meant little.
As American Catholicism spread during the 19th century, anti-Catholic violence saw churches burned, Catholics massacred, property destroyed, and the growth of anti-foreigner and anti-Catholic organizations like the Know Nothings. Beyond violence, Catholics routinely became victims of discrimination in employment and housing.
By the turn of the 20th century, growing numbers, especially in the big cities, gave Catholics political power, and yet the struggle continued. The unsuccessful presidential campaign of Al Smith in 1928, in which Smiths Catholicism became a divisive political issue, underscored the century of struggle. The Catholicism of candidate John F. Kennedy nearly cost him the 1960 election, but Kennedy did win by an extremely small margin against Richard Nixon. During both elections, opponents of the candidates suggested that a Catholic, if elected president, would take orders from the Pope. The success of Kennedys presidency and the tragedy of his assassination made Kennedy a mainstream and iconic American figure whose religion became truly incidental. Kennedys election showed, perhaps, the last vestiges of endemic anti-Catholicism.
In the 21st century, anti-Catholicism is mainly the purview of a small group of bigots, who also hate everybody else. Young Catholics today are simply not aware of the hardships their ancestors had to face. Religion-based prejudice is hardly gone, however. Islamic Americans today face equivalent misunderstanding and intolerance."
http://www.lifeintheusa.com/religion/discrimination.htm

This was a Catholic home where the Klan burned crosses on lawns, as they did on my grandmother's farm in Iowa.
Second KKK
In 1915, the second Klan was founded in Atlanta, Georgia. Starting in 1921, it adopted a modern business system of recruiting (which paid most of the initiation fee and costume charges as commissions to the organizers) and grew rapidly nationwide at a time of prosperity. Reflecting the social tensions of urban industrialization and vastly increased immigration, its membership grew most rapidly in cities, and spread out of the South to the Midwest and West. The second KKK preached "One Hundred Percent Americanism" and demanded the purification of politics, calling for strict morality and better enforcement of prohibition. Its official rhetoric focused on the threat of the Catholic Church, using anti-Catholicism and nativism.[3] Its appeal was directed exclusively at white Protestants.[21] Some local groups took part in attacks on private houses and carried out other violent activities. "
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_Klux_Klan
There is a long history of discriminatory hiring practices against Catholics, which is why so many Italian and Irish communities kept to themselves. When JFK ran for president, there were rampant charges of Papism, similar to what we see on DU today. He is the only Catholic in US history. Every other President has been Protestant.
There has long been a racial dimension to anti-Catholic nativisim. The Irish were not seen as white in the 19th century, nor were the Italians when they immigrated. They were defined as racially inferior, and their religion was part of that. The same holds true for Latinos today. Latinos are subject to widespread discrimination in hiring, public policy, and a host of areas. The long-association with Catholicism as being foreign, or subject to foreign papist influence endures today. Since most practicing Catholics in the US are now Latino and most masses in Spanish, racism, nativism, and anti-Catholicism remain linked. People here have had that pointed out several times, but they do not care that they are deliberately condemning the second largest Democratic voting block and instead expressing preference for Protestants, religious denominations that vote overwhelmingly Republican.
Children in some parts of the country are subject to ridicule from Protestants who tell them they aren't even Christian:
http://www.catholic.org/featured/headline.php?ID=13
The belief that Catholics aren't really Christian is widespread, particularly among conservative Evangelicals. They have an uneasy alliance with the Catholic hierarchy but despise the ordinary Catholics they seek to have expelled from this country through border fences and "voluntary deportation."
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Can anyone point me to any actual persecution or mass discrimination of Catholics in the US today? [View all]
ButterflyBlood
Mar 2013
OP
There is no persecution of or mass discrimination against Catholics in the US today
cthulu2016
Mar 2013
#4
Someone recently posted a list of "discriminated groups" that included both
ButterflyBlood
Mar 2013
#5
In the 70s I would still occasionally hear stories about how the priests were having sex with
HiPointDem
Mar 2013
#24
As Bill Maher said, the Catholic League is "one guy with a FAX machine".
Egalitarian Thug
Mar 2013
#13
Yeah...didn't people like not think Kenney was electable because he was Catholic?
Gravitycollapse
Mar 2013
#27
Indiana had the largest Klan organization of any state in the "Invisible Empire" era in the 20s,
struggle4progress
Mar 2013
#35
The question under consideration is: what fraction of Indiana is Southern Baptist?
struggle4progress
Mar 2013
#131
The KKK burned a cross in the field across from my maternal grandparents' farm house
amandabeech
Mar 2013
#202
Actually I don't know ANYONE in my age group who identifies as Catholic, so I don't think it matters
ButterflyBlood
Mar 2013
#209
I hope that the booming churches are not actually personal fiefs of very conservative
amandabeech
Mar 2013
#210
F*wittedness and a*holery seem to afflict a certain portion of the entire population of the world,
struggle4progress
Mar 2013
#61
I used to frequent a restaurant that in the corner had a small hook in the corner.
gordianot
Mar 2013
#69
no, actually, fairly widespread anti-catholicism lasted long past the civil war.
HiPointDem
Mar 2013
#25
I was born in the80s and never ONCE dealt with discrimination against Catholics
ButterflyBlood
Mar 2013
#50
Why should anyone have to hide who or what they are in order to buy a house?
sabrina 1
Mar 2013
#119
Would any Catholic running for President today have a problem because they are Catholic?
ButterflyBlood
Mar 2013
#122
You could ask the same question about any oppressed group in this country who have fought
sabrina 1
Mar 2013
#191
Why? Today, in 27 States it is legal to discriminate against LGBT people in housing.
Bluenorthwest
Mar 2013
#229
Restrictive covenants became uneforceable in the 1960s with enforcement of the original
amandabeech
Mar 2013
#214
In 27 States it is legal today to discriminate against LGBT in housing. Today.
Bluenorthwest
Mar 2013
#230
That would be 1968 vintage with the establishment of the Fair Housing Act.
Luminous Animal
Mar 2013
#228
" If you it asks you for religion on the application form you could simply lie or "decline to state"
hedgehog
Mar 2013
#164
Of course things have improved. I'm just wondering why the time means one couldn't lie on the form.
ButterflyBlood
Mar 2013
#173
Since I converted myself WITHOUT any discrimination, I don't see that as an awful proposition
ButterflyBlood
Mar 2013
#182
Probably really, really long depending on the degree of tolerance and acceptance
JDPriestly
Mar 2013
#160
I've read that the strong prejudice against the Irish, the French Cajuns, and the Polish
aint_no_life_nowhere
Mar 2013
#128
Yes. And think about the schism in Ireland between Protestants and Catholics,
JDPriestly
Mar 2013
#169
It comes down to something really, really, simple - called principle
The Straight Story
Mar 2013
#10
Is that needed in order to demonstrate civility toward DU'ers who are Catholic?
Behind the Aegis
Mar 2013
#15
Catholics were a key group SUPPORTING marriage equality in the state of Washington.
pnwmom
Mar 2013
#22
It's funny how much more recognition outsiders give to the self-appointed hierarchy
pnwmom
Mar 2013
#177
Feminists, try to find a Christian church that does NOT have an all-male Trinity.
Manifestor_of_Light
Mar 2013
#212
Let's imagine all Catholic undocumented immigrants in the US converted to Protestant
ButterflyBlood
Mar 2013
#125
Actually many Hispanics are converting to Protestantism so it's not that absurd
ButterflyBlood
Mar 2013
#142
After the Catholic Church whined about how birth control was religious persecution, they
geek tragedy
Mar 2013
#51
Our neighbor forbade their daughter playing with my sister in elementary school.
ieoeja
Mar 2013
#56
Which Republican won most Religious Right Bible Belt voters for the GOP nomination?
ButterflyBlood
Mar 2013
#58
If you define the relevant time period as not "before the 90s" then you probably won't find a lot
onenote
Mar 2013
#65
My parents were married in 1981. My father's side of the family had no one who had any problems
ButterflyBlood
Mar 2013
#71
My Catholic niece married a fundie two years ago. Her family was furious. Mine couldn't care less.
ieoeja
Mar 2013
#73
Would fundies be OK with them marrying a liberal Lutheran like my father's side of the family?
ButterflyBlood
Mar 2013
#75
I believe mainstream protestants view Lutherans as Catholic-Lite. So, yes, they would not like it.
ieoeja
Mar 2013
#94
Offhand, the only one I can think of is Mel Gibson, and I'm not sure if he's considered
Zorra
Mar 2013
#89
Piss Christ is neither great art, nor something worth getting worked up over
ButterflyBlood
Mar 2013
#123
You have the facts straight from Rudy G, not from reality. The work of religious art you speak of is
Bluenorthwest
Mar 2013
#231
It's easier to point out discrimination the church has committed over the millenia.
Apophis
Mar 2013
#93
Well, there is always prejudice against various groups (Catholics, women, gays, blacks, on and on)
Arugula Latte
Mar 2013
#132
Ask the unitarians in Knoxville about being killed in church by a nut.
Manifestor_of_Light
Mar 2013
#213
When my parents got married, no one on my father's side of the family objected
ButterflyBlood
Mar 2013
#135
How nice for you. And, as a matter of fact, they blame him for me being a Democrat.
DevonRex
Mar 2013
#145
Some Catholics in this country vote for Democrats and liberal ideals. It's about 50/50.
ButterflyBlood
Mar 2013
#148
My point is simply that fundies don't like liberal Protestants any more than Catholics
nadinbrzezinski
Mar 2013
#220
The way I see it is the persecution is on the leadership for continuing the old ways
LiberalFighter
Mar 2013
#133
It's more of a response to the claim that what we see on DU is some type of modern day Know Nothing
ButterflyBlood
Mar 2013
#146
It's why though I encourage people to leave. I basically got my mom to convert.
ButterflyBlood
Mar 2013
#150
It is none of your fucking business to "encourage people to leave" any religion.
DevonRex
Mar 2013
#165
So? Missouri Synod is still Lutheran. You said nothing to contradict me.
Manifestor_of_Light
Mar 2013
#241