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lunatica

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9. I believe that before he was anyone else's pawn he was his family's pawn

Mon Mar 18, 2013, 07:39 AM

Mar 2013

Without his family and their contacts the Supreme Court wouldn't have selected him. His father kept him out of Vietnam, and even covered for his going awol. He was the child of privilege who had a role to play and he played it. He was even given passing grades at Yale, his father's Alma Mater and he was inducted into Skull and Bones only because of who his father and grandfather were.

We see him as a fuck up. But he was far from it. He came closer to achieving the goal of his family than even his father, with all his CIA power. He was very effective. If we ever survive him it'll take generations. Now they want Jeb to come in and finish it because George was just the scapegoat, set up by his own parents.

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Is Bush Evil or Just a stupid pawn? [View all] Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2013 OP

I say evil AND stupid! MarianJack Mar 2013 #1

+ 1 Berlum Mar 2013 #2

Yep. 99Forever Mar 2013 #11

No reason why he can't be both. baldguy Mar 2013 #13

Bush can be evil by not doing anything to stop Cheney's actions but too stupid to actually be the Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2013 #22

yup RedCappedBandit Mar 2013 #27

The entire Bush family is evil lunatica Mar 2013 #3

Yes. But as far as Iraq is concerned....I just can't see him being involved enough - or rather give Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2013 #5

I believe that before he was anyone else's pawn he was his family's pawn lunatica Mar 2013 #9

Read Richard Clarke's first book. Egalitarian Thug Mar 2013 #39

W is the 3rd of so far 4 Bush's to run and 2 who won the Presidency graham4anything Mar 2013 #4

As for GB not being stupid...you reminded me of seeing some clips here from when he Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2013 #7

Paul Waldman's book "Fraud" about W showed how they did it again and again graham4anything Mar 2013 #15

Well...supposedly Romney was the "sane" choice...the one who could win in a general. Do Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2013 #16

No, because no one would have beaten President Obama in 2012, which is why Jeb did not run graham4anything Mar 2013 #17

Last year, I would have voted that Little Georgie was just plain stupid. jerseyjack Mar 2013 #6

Yes, I was just remembering that too. But, how could he keep that rube act up? Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2013 #10

I think he also fried out his brains quite a bit with drugs & alcohol Arugula Latte Mar 2013 #30

Yes, I agree. If it was a dumb act then somehow it became more - self medicating. nt Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2013 #42

More and more since he's been out.. I'm thinking stupid. annabanana Mar 2013 #8

Agree. I picture him thinking..."This is just too hard, I thought it'd be easy just walzing around Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2013 #12

George W probably thought he could outdo Dad, claimed Saddam "threatened my daddy". Thinkingabout Mar 2013 #14

no option for both dembotoz Mar 2013 #18

The expression "dumb like a fox" comes to mind. A psychopathic fox. WinkyDink Mar 2013 #19

Both, but the evil was just small scale on his part. hobbit709 Mar 2013 #20

Two war criminals! dmosh42 Mar 2013 #21

He can't be both? jmowreader Mar 2013 #23

Yes, in some ways. too late to add both as a choice. Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2013 #24

Bush isn't stupid LeftInTX Mar 2013 #25

So maybe it's not dumb or evil - but disengaged and not involved. He always wanted Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2013 #32

I think he is more stupid than evil. Kalidurga Mar 2013 #26

I had to pass as i belive it is both- ruffburr Mar 2013 #28

100% agree with your assessment Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2013 #34

I don't think he was quite as evil as Cheney aint_no_life_nowhere Mar 2013 #29

I don't think the two are mutually exclusive. TroglodyteScholar Mar 2013 #31

Laura, where' the "both" option? David Zephyr Mar 2013 #33

i got reamed one time for adding a choice after the poll was active. Scars Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2013 #35

Now I voted!!! Thanks. David Zephyr Mar 2013 #38

Bush is evil and used Cheney as the fall guy. You think a Bush ever takes the fall? DevonRex Mar 2013 #36

They are not mutually exclusive The Second Stone Mar 2013 #37

I think he's a stupid person who willingly allowed himself to Raine Mar 2013 #40

you are so smart...this says it all Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2013 #41

Both. A stupid pawn who allowed truly evil people to do truly evil things. Initech Mar 2013 #43

Yes. nt tblue37 Mar 2013 #44