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In reply to the discussion: "A WELL REGULATED MILITIA, being necessary to THE SECURITY of a free state..." Some facts for you [View all]Cary
(11,746 posts)113. He relies on us to give bim authority.
President Obama is not a dictator. He is a politician and politics is the art of the possible.
Do you really think President Obama "evolved" on the issue of gay marriage? Of course he didn't. He timed his "change" for the greatest affect. That's politics.
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"A WELL REGULATED MILITIA, being necessary to THE SECURITY of a free state..." Some facts for you [View all]
TrollBuster9090
Mar 2013
OP
The same Alexander Hamilton, who boasted of being in 10 duels, before being killed in the 11th one..
Ghost in the Machine
Mar 2013
#205
"Take the guns away" is an extreme characterization. I know lots of people interested in more
patrice
Mar 2013
#7
Seriously? You believe everyone on the internet is honest? ... is what they portray themselves as?
patrice
Mar 2013
#10
None of which justifies the dysfunctions that we are seeing. Some FEW idiots propose to take the gun
patrice
Mar 2013
#21
ALL? You fail to notice that I asked you earlier WHAT PERCENTAGE. Why did you fail to notice that?
patrice
Mar 2013
#138
And, btw, you're saying NONE of them are, so you negate your own (mistaken) critique of my position.
patrice
Mar 2013
#139
And you think all of that stuff is authentic? If not, what percentage would you guess might not be
patrice
Mar 2013
#23
That's either, intentionally or otherwise, naive, or dishonest. In either case, you just proved #21
patrice
Mar 2013
#29
Astro-turfing from both directions. Corporate gun-persons are not sitting on the sidelines here. nt
patrice
Mar 2013
#132
Most of the pro gun organizations show a much wider contributor base than the anti gun ones
ProgressiveProfessor
Mar 2013
#145
Thanks for that info. Just thinking gun manufacturers, such as those on the board of NRA, and
patrice
Mar 2013
#149
You have not been around long enough to give your statement much weight
ProgressiveProfessor
Mar 2013
#24
A suitable retort to someone making such broad statements as you did
ProgressiveProfessor
Mar 2013
#143
Zombies usually betray themselves over time. Some even own up to it
ProgressiveProfessor
Mar 2013
#182
Just skimmed the TOS and can't find where answering the question is a violation
Progressive dog
Mar 2013
#184
You did see the poster in the thread who said they support total confiscation?
ProgressiveProfessor
Mar 2013
#185
Anyone that would use a firearm against an LEO for *any* reason , even a legitimate one, will
Ikonoklast
Mar 2013
#163
Thank you for this. So sad isn't it, even when one may in fact be VERY right, violence makes you
patrice
Mar 2013
#4
The theme of Federalist Paper 46 is no different from Federalist Paper 49
TrollBuster9090
Mar 2013
#44
"And it is not certain, that with this aid alone they would not be able to shake off their yokes."
ieoeja
Mar 2013
#123
But Madison also couldn't conceive that the people and states would need/want to endlessly
jmg257
Mar 2013
#135
He's claiming here that *facts* bore him, as they almost uniformly do our "pro gun progressives"*
apocalypsehow
Mar 2013
#80
So you joined DU just to say the lie that technology has advanced too much to enforce laws?
SunSeeker
Mar 2013
#16
And that would work on exactly the people you dont need to worry about...
TampaAnimusVortex
Mar 2013
#33
Right now. My point was in 5 years, they will be on practically every desktop around.
TampaAnimusVortex
Mar 2013
#41
You really dont expect such a transparent attempt at dodging to work do you?
TampaAnimusVortex
Mar 2013
#115
What's the problem? Why not start with existing problems that we know about NOW...i.e.
jmg257
Mar 2013
#116
I disagree. There are no laws that will ever solve this, even remotely.
TampaAnimusVortex
Mar 2013
#120
As mentioned in another post...may be appropriate cause for regulating ammo and reloading
jmg257
Mar 2013
#122
Why do I get the feeling they've been re-running WEIRD SCIENCE on late night TV?
TrollBuster9090
Mar 2013
#194
That is a fairly Luddite approach and will be no better than its namesake
ProgressiveProfessor
Mar 2013
#38
Actually you can do both, but I understand where you are coming from
ProgressiveProfessor
Mar 2013
#45
This is actually an insightful argument as to why ammunition will have to be regulated.
jmg257
Mar 2013
#118
If you think regulating assult weapons is a difficult proposition...
TampaAnimusVortex
Mar 2013
#124
So what is your solution to the problem? Or are you saying there should be no regs at all
uppityperson
Mar 2013
#32
Maybe we could actually address societies problems/inequalities and mental health issues
pediatricmedic
Mar 2013
#54
If your argument is that it's pointless to ban arms manufacturers from selling certain types of
TrollBuster9090
Mar 2013
#51
How long do you think it will take for the field of files to remain irreparably polluted by fakes?
Occulus
Mar 2013
#180
Your not very savy about reputation and community feedback systems are you?
TampaAnimusVortex
Mar 2013
#186
I'm not too worried about plastic guns with plastic bullets and home-made gunpowder.
arcane1
Mar 2013
#127
What are you talking about? The gun industry itself will be obsolete when this technology takes off.
TampaAnimusVortex
Mar 2013
#187
“I believe that the Constitution confers an individual right to bear arms" - Barack Obama
hack89
Mar 2013
#22
You're not really fooling anyone, hack. I know you think you are, and it's a nice try.
apocalypsehow
Mar 2013
#84
You're not really fooling anyone, hack. I know you think you are, and it's a nice try.
apocalypsehow
Mar 2013
#92
You're not really fooling anyone, hack. I know you think you are, and it's a nice try.
apocalypsehow
Mar 2013
#101
Heh, I don't deny that A) people have a (natural) right to defend themselves and their property, and
TrollBuster9090
Mar 2013
#195
Or confirming it, rather than restoring it. For anyone to claim (as Madison inferred) that the
TrollBuster9090
Mar 2013
#208
And, of course, "well regulated" actually means regulations are acceptable.
Curmudgeoness
Mar 2013
#30
The purpose of the Bill of Rights is to put restrictions on the government....not the people.
davidn3600
Mar 2013
#46
Hmm, who to believe. The Supreme Court or some anonymous user of a political chatboard?
MadHound
Mar 2013
#50
I believe Stevens and 200 years of precedent, not the ridiculous Scalia decision you cite.
SunSeeker
Mar 2013
#57
I didn't say they couldn't govern themselves, just that they aren't always right.
SunSeeker
Mar 2013
#75
As Stevens' dissent pointed out, the Heller ruling contradicted SUPREME COURT precedent.
SunSeeker
Mar 2013
#64
Yep - the Heller ruling was the "Dred Scott" and "Plessey v. Ferugson" of our generation:
apocalypsehow
Mar 2013
#99
No. Unfortunately, that is the law now thanks to the ridiculous 2008 Heller decision. nt
SunSeeker
Mar 2013
#66
President Obama disagrees with you and says the 2nd amendment is an individual right
davidn3600
Mar 2013
#72
Hmmm..."MadHound" praising a 5-4 Rightwing court with Scalia in the lead...who to believe?
apocalypsehow
Mar 2013
#83
So, I suppose you completely and totally support President Obama's recent gun control proposals?
apocalypsehow
Mar 2013
#96
Actually, you don't - as shown over and over and over again, particularly with your opposition to
apocalypsehow
Mar 2013
#105
"Care to continue calling me a liar" - Why should I get in your way? You're doing a bang-up (no pun
apocalypsehow
Mar 2013
#147
"though I think that it will be fairly toothless, since the definition of "assault weapon" is so.."
apocalypsehow
Mar 2013
#107
The fact of the matter is the definition of assault weapon is pretty amorphous,
MadHound
Mar 2013
#110
There's another one up there saying everyone on the internet is authentic, so every time we see
patrice
Mar 2013
#131
The funny thing is, posters like that who have spent YEARS peddling the pro-NRA line are suddenly
apocalypsehow
Mar 2013
#148
You sure are anxious to get on the side of that right-wing Scalia court when it comes to their
apocalypsehow
Mar 2013
#98
Scalia supporters don't really impress me all that much - nor does his legal career impress the
apocalypsehow
Mar 2013
#106
You go right on supporting a right-wing supreme court justice's (Ronnie Raygun appointment) premier
apocalypsehow
Mar 2013
#150
There's also the actual powers granted to Congress in the text of the Constitution.
Bolo Boffin
Mar 2013
#82
You didn't make it a sentence without insulting the people you are trying to reach
Demo_Chris
Mar 2013
#85
Baloney. You just don't like the *FACTS* presented, to wit: the founding fathers did not care
apocalypsehow
Mar 2013
#87
Ahhhh, yet *another* "pro gun progressive"* who couldn't be bothered to read the content
apocalypsehow
Mar 2013
#91
Yes. We shouldn't believe that thigns are possible just because they happened before. n/t
Orsino
Mar 2013
#172
Of course the militia refers to "ordinary" citizens. That has always been the case, and it's...
slackmaster
Mar 2013
#119
Gotta love the impotent appeals to "should" that aren't supported by any kind of reasoning
slackmaster
Mar 2013
#199
And your brand of originalism, in turn, offers a dubious interpretation of the 2nd.
dairydog91
Mar 2013
#151
That gun troll actually linked to something called "whiteswillwinparty."
apocalypsehow
Mar 2013
#171
I just thought if you clicked it might take you to the Republican National Committee's home page.
apocalypsehow
Mar 2013
#178
I never claimed it wasn't an individual right. I claimed (and provided proof) that the Founders
TrollBuster9090
Mar 2013
#213
Yep, that was exactly my point. And while I'm not denying anybody's right to bear arms, my argument
TrollBuster9090
Mar 2013
#210