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patrice

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49. It appears you're avoiding Scootaloo's central point: NOTHING but appearances, Left:Center:Right,

Wed Feb 1, 2012, 04:45 PM

Feb 2012

APPEARANCES, is the same bullshit that got us all into this situation and throwing people out of the movement, because of appearances, is that same bullshit in spades.

We NEED to address ROOT CAUSES and the best way to do that is TOGETHER.

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Why OWS Needs to Denounce Violent Tactics on Display at Occupy Oakland [View all] SunsetDreams Feb 2012 OP

FYI, burning a flag is not violence. As for denouncing violence, OWS has over and over again. Luminous Animal Feb 2012 #1

Thank the author for her concern as well? SunsetDreams Feb 2012 #3

You are welcome to thank her on my behalf. I find her concern over a piece of cloth... Luminous Animal Feb 2012 #9

It's not just about the flag, if you SunsetDreams Feb 2012 #10

I read it. It ignores the thousand who protested PEACEFULLY. It ignores the 100s arrested Luminous Animal Feb 2012 #13

Yes. It PURPOSEFULLY ignores the thousands who are/were peaceful. /nt October Feb 2012 #54

Stealing someone else's flag and burning it may not be violent... Joe the Revelator Feb 2012 #4

10s of thousands have been attacked by the police. Hundreds beaten. Thousands arrested. Luminous Animal Feb 2012 #5

"Apparently, the 1% has a lot more friends on this board over a piece of cloth." SunsetDreams Feb 2012 #8

That the cloth is a symbol does not negate that it is a piece of cloth. That the hue & cry over this Luminous Animal Feb 2012 #11

OWS shouldn't be about either/or SunsetDreams Feb 2012 #14

They didn't break into City Hall. They walked in the door was unlocked. And where is the Luminous Animal Feb 2012 #17

A crowbar was used on a fire escape door, they didn't just walk in SunsetDreams Feb 2012 #21

No. A crowbar was not used on a fire escape door. Even Jean Quan couldn't present that evidence... Luminous Animal Feb 2012 #28

Neither will sitting at a whites-only lunch counter in protest... LanternWaste Feb 2012 #47

You don't know that. October Feb 2012 #55

Not to you but it can influence many of the 99% who think it is. I am not one of those but I have jwirr Feb 2012 #53

I agree. This needs to stop. LetTimmySmoke Feb 2012 #2

Where is your concern for those who were trapped against the wall of the YMCA building Luminous Animal Feb 2012 #6

Apparently these types of posters disappear or have no voice/opinion when OWS members are abused. October Feb 2012 #57

Burning the flag? Come on people, use your brains. WHEN CRABS ROAR Feb 2012 #7

Burning a flag is not violence. Arresting hundreds of peaceful protesters is brutality. Luminous Animal Feb 2012 #12

Burning the flag may not be violence, but it is destruction WHEN CRABS ROAR Feb 2012 #27

And taking away a human beings liberty for exercising their Constitutional rights Luminous Animal Feb 2012 #29

We need to say to the rest of the 99% that, that destruction wasn't done in our name WHEN CRABS ROAR Feb 2012 #32

We do. And yet people keep pretending we don't. Luminous Animal Feb 2012 #34

Property > Human life and freedoms Scootaloo Feb 2012 #37

About a quarter of those who marched on Saturdy were robbed of their liberty Luminous Animal Feb 2012 #38

I hope you dont think this article represents anything other than one person's slanted rhett o rick Feb 2012 #18

I agree. emilyg Feb 2012 #15

Just Plain Bull TheMastersNemesis Feb 2012 #16

The Oakland cops may be just a bunch RW PIGS. WHEN CRABS ROAR Feb 2012 #30

In our little town of 1200 people, we have had Occupy demonstrations of over 100 persons. WHEN CRABS ROAR Feb 2012 #19

The problems in Oakland are unique to that city. JDPriestly Feb 2012 #35

The article and the OP are aimed at discrediting OWS. rhett o rick Feb 2012 #20

"The article and the OP" lol SunsetDreams Feb 2012 #23

Sorry, apparently I misunderstood. It is not clear to me that you consider the rhett o rick Feb 2012 #42

This message was self-deleted by its author joshcryer Feb 2012 #22

Your concern is noted. n/t Cali_Democrat Feb 2012 #24

thanks :) SunsetDreams Feb 2012 #25

Check out Ward Churchill's Pacifism as Pathology. joshcryer Feb 2012 #26

apologists for the police and military oppressors are not interested in your view lol nt msongs Feb 2012 #31

demand identification and arrest of city hall vandals tiny elvis Feb 2012 #33

Did you know not everyone enjoys the luxury of wagging fingers? Scootaloo Feb 2012 #36

This is the best post I've seen addressing this issue. Luminous Animal Feb 2012 #39

Wait, you think Gandhi had the local press on his side? Robb Feb 2012 #43

The author of the alternet article made the claim Scootaloo Feb 2012 #44

Still rationalizing violence. It's idiotic. Robb Feb 2012 #45

Still putting words in my mouth Scootaloo Feb 2012 #46

It appears you're avoiding Scootaloo's central point: NOTHING but appearances, Left:Center:Right, patrice Feb 2012 #49

If everyone who felt they were abused Kellerfeller Feb 2012 #58

I strongly agree with this. patrice Feb 2012 #48

Welcome to DU. nt redqueen Feb 2012 #50

Hear hear! MrCoffee Feb 2012 #51

That graffitti is obviously agent provocateur BS. Odin2005 Feb 2012 #40

I agree that looks fake as hell. limpyhobbler Feb 2012 #41

You guys think that the Media and the Republicans aren't having a field day with that image? AZ Progressive Feb 2012 #52

The violence was by the police. Flag burning and property destruction are not violence. JackRiddler Feb 2012 #56

The people who were clubbed and gassed and shot in the face EFerrari Feb 2012 #59