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FlaGatorJD

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Wed Feb 1, 2012, 05:20 PM Feb 2012

The President Has a Growing Marijuana Problem [View all]

Not to be confused with a marijuana growing problem, but the President's problem is not going away. In fact, it's growing like a weed. sorry

The problem is not that he stands in an unfavorable position with the minority of Americans on legalization and medical marijuana, it's his inability to be clear about the matter and to adequately address the questions and positions of not only the growing mass of 20-somethings as indicated by online activity, but also the increasing number of state legislators who are pressing him and the administration to reconsider. Just a few days ago, a bi-partisan group of 42 Washington legislators requested a reclassificaton of the drug by the DEA to allow medical marijuana.

When the President decided to team up with YouTube and Google to stage a 45-minute "hangout" session where he answers the most asked questions from voters, he probably could have guessed that the millenials and generation xers, who dominate online forums, were not going to be concerned about social security. In fact, it could easily have been assumed the dominant questions would be about marijuana, legalization, medical, etc., especially as it had last year.

The top vote getting question was this one one from a retired LA police deputy chief who asked
about legalization. His question received 1.6 million votes, and this gives you an idea of the level of interest among young voters on the matter:

Sorting the questions by popularity reveals that 18 of the 20 most popular questions, according to YouTube, have something to do with marijuana policy, including the legalization of marijuana use, the cost of the war on drugs and other related issues.

This thought-provoking question came in fifth:

"With over 850,000 Americans arrested in 2010, on marijuana charges alone, and tens of billions of tax dollars being spent locking up marijuana users, isn't it time to regulate and tax marijuana?


Again, Mr. President? . . . . . .crickets . . . .

Being all about voter participation and all, you figure the President would have answered some or at least one of the questoins about pot, which was obviously on the voters' minds, but no. Not one. Now they are claiming YouTube or Google screened the questions, therefore the President didn't get any of those questions.

Really?

Well he did go on record a year ago, and thanks to the internet tubes we can go back a year and see what his stance was then, and I have to say aside from his Mr. Mackey impersonation, "drugs are bad", the rest of his answer was probably the worst answer to any question I've ever seen him answer anywhere on anything.



So in summary, legalization is just wrong, cause I say so, and it's a public health matter, incareation is bad and education is good, and we must reduce demand?

That's what you got? . . . from possilby the brightest President ever?



. . . and here in August 2011 in MN, it's really seems like he wants to give it more than a few seconds of consideration, but then he punts.

In the video the woman asks "If you can’t legalize marijuana, why can’t you just legalize medical marijuana?” His Palinesque response was:

“A lot of states are making decisions about medical marijuana,” Obama explained. “As a controlled substance, the issue is then that is it being prescribed by a doctor as opposed to… you know, well, I’ll leave it at that.”

Back in 2008, candidate Obama said that federal prosecutors were not going to be prosecutiing medical dispensaries, because "it wasn't a good use of resources". Then the federal government change it's tune on interfering with states' right and their decisions to allow medical marijuana, but not longer after they made that statement, they started raiding dispensaries.

So in conclusion, on one side you have the majority of Americans

thttp://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/10/18/gallup-poll-is-first-to-find-plurality-support-for-marijuana-legalization/

who either favor legalization, or are not opposed to it, and on the other side President Obama and the federal government. For me, it's tough to watch the President either sidestep the issue or attempt to justify his position, but in his defense, I would argue that the reason he avoids the question or stumbles on his answers is that he's conflicted. While a part of him has to say "you know, this whole thing does wreak of paternalistic government and it takes a huge bite out of personal freedoms and rights, and states' rights, and there is that whole hypocrisy concerning alcohol and prescription drug use, which may be a greater problem in our country', 'I'm a father and I don't think this would be good for our daughters, and I would really be in trouble trying to tell them not to do it, if it ever became legal". The Gallup poll did indicate:
. . . there is some evidence that support for legalization can erode as people age and have children.
.

. . . at least that's the only thing I can figure which is clouding his decisionmaking ability amd lands him on the wrong side of this issue, and while anti-weed folks like to dismiss this as an unimportant issue, because I guess they can tell us what is important, that's how the President is handling it too. . . and well . . it comes off . . . .. really condescending.

Now, if you'll excuse me ladies and gentlemen, I have a 4:20 appointment


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Be ready for the Obama defenders to rip you a new one! Logical Feb 2012 #1
I've got my anti Obama defender force field and hat in place FlaGatorJD Feb 2012 #3
I will too. But many here do like ANY complaints about him. Logical Feb 2012 #6
It would be stupid of him to give his opponents amunition to use against him this year. Kurmudgeon Feb 2012 #14
I have always voted dem since 1980. So not sure who you are lecturing. Logical Feb 2012 #16
and it will be stupid again in 2014 during midterms.. frylock Feb 2012 #20
The president doesn't need a liberal congress for this metalbot Feb 2012 #27
It will NOT be legal in our lifetime. It is too risky from a political standpoint. gregtownsand Feb 2012 #41
I don't think it's a problem for him Enrique Feb 2012 #2
Yea, you're right that might lead to CHANGE FlaGatorJD Feb 2012 #4
LOL...true. Logical Feb 2012 #7
Our drug policy needs to change (a lot of policies need to change) Proud Liberal Dem Feb 2012 #5
Legalizing Marijuana in and of itself is not pressing to be sure, but that's not really the point. iscooterliberally Feb 2012 #8
I would concur that he can avoid the issue and stil get re-elected FlaGatorJD Feb 2012 #9
spoken like someone who hasn't been affected by the war on drugs.. frylock Feb 2012 #21
It's pressing to half a million New Yorkers stopped and frisked on no cause a year. JackRiddler Feb 2012 #30
Aw jeez, can we at least get past the damn election? Solomon Feb 2012 #10
No, a Democratic president is by far our best shot to legalize it. morningfog Feb 2012 #11
and you don't want to do it prior to the 2014 midterms.. frylock Feb 2012 #22
What people doesn't realize Lightning_McQueen Feb 2012 #23
While I disagree with the President on this, bayareamike Feb 2012 #12
If the ship is sinking, incremental change isnt going to do it. He made the choice to vigorously rhett o rick Feb 2012 #13
Oh yeah absolutely, I see FlaGatorJD Feb 2012 #15
non-violent citizens rotting in prison isn't a pressing issue? frylock Feb 2012 #24
Legalization and justice for nonviolent offenders are not one in the same. bayareamike Feb 2012 #26
Also there are other consequences than incarceration dreamnightwind Feb 2012 #32
I agree with you on everything. I'm for legalization; bayareamike Feb 2012 #39
"Incremental" does not mean "non-existent" ... JackRiddler Feb 2012 #31
You can see that support for legalization has grown for decades RainDog Feb 2012 #17
Excellent point dreamnightwind Feb 2012 #33
LOVE THE TITLE, just about lost my keyboard for the coffee spit. Lionessa Feb 2012 #18
Welcome to the fun . . . .and sorry about the keyboard . . . FlaGatorJD Feb 2012 #19
It seems like legalizing would create tons of jobs in growing, selling, distributing, etc. limpyhobbler Feb 2012 #25
Obama is just doing what ever it takes to get reelected marlakay Feb 2012 #28
So, after the election, he'll pivot on this? dreamnightwind Feb 2012 #34
I doubt it because it would affect others marlakay Feb 2012 #38
K&R (nt) T S Justly Feb 2012 #29
Do people seriously believe that MJ legalization activists are a majority? loyalsister Feb 2012 #35
It's a problem with me - and other liberals like me slay Feb 2012 #36
Thats because people are completely clueless about SomethingFishy Feb 2012 #43
The first black President can't support it, especially not his first term. hunter Feb 2012 #37
no, but he needs to tell the DEA to back off RainDog Feb 2012 #40
He should try SoG or FIM nt Bonobo Feb 2012 #42
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