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HiPointDem

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31. The UN is not a neutral body of do-gooders. It's a body of power politicians.
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 05:15 PM
Mar 2013
The UN may not be a mere tool of U.S. imperialism, but it has only had significance in international conflict when used in this manner. (Hence George W. Bush's menacing statement that it will render itself “irrelevant” if it fails to play that role (during the Iraq/afghanistan war).)

The history also suggests that real power resides not in international institutions but in the most powerful nation-states, which dictate what countries are subject to international law and what countries are not.

To date, both multilateralism and unilateralism have been means to secure a world of fundamental global inequalities and to reinforce U.S. imperial power. No discussion on reforming the UN can be complete unless we ask ourselves why and how Washington is able to call the shots in the first place.

http://www.solidarity-us.org/site/node/648


Your equation of the UN commission on women with 'the global women's rights movement' is just counter-factual. The same politicians crying about women in the UN are the ones busily droning them, stealing their land, and impoverishing them through various means in real meat space.




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Time to stop giving money to the Catholic Church RainDog Mar 2013 #1
Thanks for the link. This is appalling DemocratsForProgress Mar 2013 #2
too bad this wasn't about holding doors instead of religiously sanctioned rape RainDog Mar 2013 #3
Well said. DemocratsForProgress Mar 2013 #5
My DU looks different than others who come to the forum RainDog Mar 2013 #7
That's a very good idea. DemocratsForProgress Mar 2013 #8
My DU looks different too liberal_at_heart Mar 2013 #39
as is your right to do RainDog Mar 2013 #41
Or at least it wouldn't be drowned out by so many threads mocking feminist discourse. redqueen Mar 2013 #6
"This declaration, if ratified, would lead to the complete disintegration of society." LadyHawkAZ Mar 2013 #4
Maybe they voted against it tp prevent the hypocritical US gov't from having yet another HiPointDem Mar 2013 #9
can you explain what you do mean, then? n/t RainDog Mar 2013 #10
Perhaps, but I imagine it had more to do with the nature of those governments and our own pampango Mar 2013 #11
No, they're just male supremacist assholes seeking to protect backwards cultural geek tragedy Mar 2013 #17
yes, i'm sure 'male supremacism' is the answer. because power over women is wayyyy more HiPointDem Mar 2013 #18
This is a commission on women's rights. Maybe you missed that part in your geek tragedy Mar 2013 #19
the UN is about global power politics. not human rights. it's rather telling that, for example, HiPointDem Mar 2013 #21
Iran and the Muslim Brotherhood are in dissent RainDog Mar 2013 #22
Is the muslim brotherhood a party at the UN? I don't think so. The mention of the muslim HiPointDem Mar 2013 #24
did you read the other links here? RainDog Mar 2013 #25
how about this report about the Muslim Brotherhood's statement? RainDog Mar 2013 #27
The report only MENTIONS those four countries. There were others geek tragedy Mar 2013 #29
well, since only four were mentioned RainDog Mar 2013 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author muriel_volestrangler Mar 2013 #51
I assume this was for the person claiming otherwise? n/t RainDog Mar 2013 #52
Oops, yes, that should have been a reply to HiPointDem in #21 muriel_volestrangler Mar 2013 #54
Oh, so the UN Commission on the Status of Women is a global conspiracy geek tragedy Mar 2013 #23
yes, & charitable foundations are all about helping the downtrodden. HiPointDem Mar 2013 #26
You are shitting on the global women's rights movement geek tragedy Mar 2013 #28
The UN is not a neutral body of do-gooders. It's a body of power politicians. HiPointDem Mar 2013 #31
The global women's rights movement disagrees with you RainDog Mar 2013 #32
That one is pretty much in favor of whoever is disagreeing with the US. geek tragedy Mar 2013 #34
I notice this poster didn't walk back on his LIE RainDog Mar 2013 #35
Of course not. geek tragedy Mar 2013 #37
LOL RainDog Mar 2013 #42
You are literally and completely ignorant about what goes on at the CSW and women's rights geek tragedy Mar 2013 #33
lol. nothing has changed. just a slightly different faction of power politicians pulling the HiPointDem Mar 2013 #38
Another ignorant statement from you. Funny that you know so much more geek tragedy Mar 2013 #40
lol. 'crudely simplistic' HiPointDem Mar 2013 #43
you remind me of the stories of 60s "radicals" RainDog Mar 2013 #44
lol. another half-truth. were you there? HiPointDem Mar 2013 #45
no. but I've read what women who were had to say. have you? n/t RainDog Mar 2013 #46
you've read what *some* women who were there had to say. yes, i've read plenty and i was HiPointDem Mar 2013 #47
I didn't see that I made that claim RainDog Mar 2013 #48
what claim? HiPointDem Mar 2013 #49
No, the Saudis objected too muriel_volestrangler Mar 2013 #55
I would like to sort my own position on this out. I wonder if you could give me sourcing for this patrice Mar 2013 #12
All I can say is that it was the article's author's statement which I thought was relevant. pampango Mar 2013 #13
Thank you for understanding how necessary it is to have the original words. I will work on this patrice Mar 2013 #36
here's a Reuter's report on the same RainDog Mar 2013 #14
Here's the right wing version of this same thing RainDog Mar 2013 #16
here's Barbara Crosette RainDog Mar 2013 #20
Yet the Catholic Church whines that it's being oppressed by same sex marriage geek tragedy Mar 2013 #15
So, what do you say to 1.2 billion Catholics? You seem to be painting them as all complicit. Comrade Grumpy Mar 2013 #53
Women Declare Victory in UN Agreement on Rights of Women RainDog Mar 2013 #50
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