This message was self-deleted by its author

[haele]

76. Not all abortions involve a live fetus or "healthy birth" - but all abortions involve a live mother.

Of the five abortions where I knew the women who have gone through one personally, one was an abortion to clear out a miscarriage that would have caused sepsis and possibly killed a mother of two, one was on a fetus that would have resulted in a severely deformed baby that might have lived a painful month or two in ICU, one was a pregnancy that would potentially have killed both mother and child, and only two were elective.
There were probably others, but these were the ones I knew about, the ones where there was a noticeable impact to anyone outside the personal relationship of the potential mother, her family, her doctor, and whatever personal deities might be involved.
The key to abortion is to remember that abortion is only one result of an unwanted or non-viable pregnancy. Looking at every pregnancy as either viable / accepted, or non-viable / unaccepted, very few of the other results if the pregnancy is non-viable or unaccepted are as clean or safe for the mother or the potential infant than abortion.
Nature handles it through miscarriage, stillbirths, and maternal mortality. Modern medicine has changed that drastically, so that what might have been a natural outcome or even a “god’s will” situation has been altered through human intervention.
Whatever your personal "moral" views on abortion if you don't have a medical interest in a legitimately life and family saving medical procedure, there really is no reason to determine who can have one or who isn't supposed to have one.
Pregnancy has dangers that most people blow off, because they don't remember that even in the 1950’s when the majority of US births started occurring in hospitals, on average one in 1000 women in the US died giving birth, and one out of every three pregnancies that made it to the third trimester still ended in a miscarriage or stillbirth, and neo-natal (first 27 days) mortality was around 10%.
Medically, the continuous dangers in pregnancy is the primary reason why abortion should still be legal and safe.
And the economy willing (studies have shown that abortion rates go down as the economy improves) rare because that most pregnancies will happen to healthy women who want to have families and the morality police don’t have the overwhelming need to punish women for the un-intended or unwanted pregnancies because of the evil, nasty sex that caused the pregnancies.

It's none of my - or any other person's - business how many abortions occur, just that they are safe and were the choice of the parties directly involved. Just as I have no business in how many pregancies come to term, just that the pregancy was desired by the mother and the delivery is safe, and the babies can be cared for through adulthood.

Haele