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JackRiddler

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56. The violence was by the police. Flag burning and property destruction are not violence.

Wed Feb 1, 2012, 06:29 PM

Feb 2012

Even if you don't like them.

Your concern is noted - as being in clear hostility to Occupy.

You want to see it divided and arguing about bullshit.

While the authorities are rolling up everyone's constitutional rights into a body bag.

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Why OWS Needs to Denounce Violent Tactics on Display at Occupy Oakland [View all] SunsetDreams Feb 2012 OP

FYI, burning a flag is not violence. As for denouncing violence, OWS has over and over again. Luminous Animal Feb 2012 #1

Thank the author for her concern as well? SunsetDreams Feb 2012 #3

You are welcome to thank her on my behalf. I find her concern over a piece of cloth... Luminous Animal Feb 2012 #9

It's not just about the flag, if you SunsetDreams Feb 2012 #10

I read it. It ignores the thousand who protested PEACEFULLY. It ignores the 100s arrested Luminous Animal Feb 2012 #13

Yes. It PURPOSEFULLY ignores the thousands who are/were peaceful. /nt October Feb 2012 #54

Stealing someone else's flag and burning it may not be violent... Joe the Revelator Feb 2012 #4

10s of thousands have been attacked by the police. Hundreds beaten. Thousands arrested. Luminous Animal Feb 2012 #5

"Apparently, the 1% has a lot more friends on this board over a piece of cloth." SunsetDreams Feb 2012 #8

That the cloth is a symbol does not negate that it is a piece of cloth. That the hue & cry over this Luminous Animal Feb 2012 #11

OWS shouldn't be about either/or SunsetDreams Feb 2012 #14

They didn't break into City Hall. They walked in the door was unlocked. And where is the Luminous Animal Feb 2012 #17

A crowbar was used on a fire escape door, they didn't just walk in SunsetDreams Feb 2012 #21

No. A crowbar was not used on a fire escape door. Even Jean Quan couldn't present that evidence... Luminous Animal Feb 2012 #28

Neither will sitting at a whites-only lunch counter in protest... LanternWaste Feb 2012 #47

You don't know that. October Feb 2012 #55

Not to you but it can influence many of the 99% who think it is. I am not one of those but I have jwirr Feb 2012 #53

I agree. This needs to stop. LetTimmySmoke Feb 2012 #2

Where is your concern for those who were trapped against the wall of the YMCA building Luminous Animal Feb 2012 #6

Apparently these types of posters disappear or have no voice/opinion when OWS members are abused. October Feb 2012 #57

Burning the flag? Come on people, use your brains. WHEN CRABS ROAR Feb 2012 #7

Burning a flag is not violence. Arresting hundreds of peaceful protesters is brutality. Luminous Animal Feb 2012 #12

Burning the flag may not be violence, but it is destruction WHEN CRABS ROAR Feb 2012 #27

And taking away a human beings liberty for exercising their Constitutional rights Luminous Animal Feb 2012 #29

We need to say to the rest of the 99% that, that destruction wasn't done in our name WHEN CRABS ROAR Feb 2012 #32

We do. And yet people keep pretending we don't. Luminous Animal Feb 2012 #34

Property > Human life and freedoms Scootaloo Feb 2012 #37

About a quarter of those who marched on Saturdy were robbed of their liberty Luminous Animal Feb 2012 #38

I hope you dont think this article represents anything other than one person's slanted rhett o rick Feb 2012 #18

I agree. emilyg Feb 2012 #15

Just Plain Bull TheMastersNemesis Feb 2012 #16

The Oakland cops may be just a bunch RW PIGS. WHEN CRABS ROAR Feb 2012 #30

In our little town of 1200 people, we have had Occupy demonstrations of over 100 persons. WHEN CRABS ROAR Feb 2012 #19

The problems in Oakland are unique to that city. JDPriestly Feb 2012 #35

The article and the OP are aimed at discrediting OWS. rhett o rick Feb 2012 #20

"The article and the OP" lol SunsetDreams Feb 2012 #23

Sorry, apparently I misunderstood. It is not clear to me that you consider the rhett o rick Feb 2012 #42

This message was self-deleted by its author joshcryer Feb 2012 #22

Your concern is noted. n/t Cali_Democrat Feb 2012 #24

thanks :) SunsetDreams Feb 2012 #25

Check out Ward Churchill's Pacifism as Pathology. joshcryer Feb 2012 #26

apologists for the police and military oppressors are not interested in your view lol nt msongs Feb 2012 #31

demand identification and arrest of city hall vandals tiny elvis Feb 2012 #33

Did you know not everyone enjoys the luxury of wagging fingers? Scootaloo Feb 2012 #36

This is the best post I've seen addressing this issue. Luminous Animal Feb 2012 #39

Wait, you think Gandhi had the local press on his side? Robb Feb 2012 #43

The author of the alternet article made the claim Scootaloo Feb 2012 #44

Still rationalizing violence. It's idiotic. Robb Feb 2012 #45

Still putting words in my mouth Scootaloo Feb 2012 #46

It appears you're avoiding Scootaloo's central point: NOTHING but appearances, Left:Center:Right, patrice Feb 2012 #49

If everyone who felt they were abused Kellerfeller Feb 2012 #58

I strongly agree with this. patrice Feb 2012 #48

Welcome to DU. nt redqueen Feb 2012 #50

Hear hear! MrCoffee Feb 2012 #51

That graffitti is obviously agent provocateur BS. Odin2005 Feb 2012 #40

I agree that looks fake as hell. limpyhobbler Feb 2012 #41

You guys think that the Media and the Republicans aren't having a field day with that image? AZ Progressive Feb 2012 #52

The violence was by the police. Flag burning and property destruction are not violence. JackRiddler Feb 2012 #56

The people who were clubbed and gassed and shot in the face EFerrari Feb 2012 #59