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32. I am testing the claim that as long as it's "consenting adults" involved, that

Tue Mar 19, 2013, 02:50 PM

Mar 2013

there is no reasonable/sane grounds for restricting that freedom of speech.

Now the position is that there are valid exceptions to the "as long as there are consenting adults no restriction is valid" rule.

On what do we base those exceptions--harm to society? Encouraging sexual violence? We know it when we see it? Depiciting illegal behavior?

How do we determine what kind of porn that involves only consenting adults can be banned and what can't be banned?

Are there justiciable standards that a court would be able to apply, or is it just something on gut instinct?

If people are going to make blanket assertions, they need to define how far that blanket reaches.

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Porn is mostly Base and Unlikable Stuff [View all] cthulu2016 Mar 2013 OP

What's torture is all the porn pronouncements today BeyondGeography Mar 2013 #1

I agree. No need to ban porn, no need for censorship. JaneyVee Mar 2013 #2

And yet it is a billion dollar industry. Rex Mar 2013 #3

Maybe because...people want it? brooklynite Mar 2013 #45

Oh I agree, there would be no billion dollar industry without demand. Rex Mar 2013 #48

Have you seen ismnotwasm Mar 2013 #4

You just haven't found the right porn yet Taverner Mar 2013 #5

Porn isn't necessary to sexuality, catharsis and release nt geek tragedy Mar 2013 #13

For some of us it is, and it's not your call Taverner Mar 2013 #15

Certainly, but the statement "you just haven't found the right porn" is similarly geek tragedy Mar 2013 #17

That was just a joke Taverner Mar 2013 #18

understood, peace nt geek tragedy Mar 2013 #19

What's with all the posts about porn? Jersey Devil Mar 2013 #6

I think it is in response to this post/article Salviati Mar 2013 #9

It's getting close to the end of the month... snooper2 Mar 2013 #11

Porn always angers the weak Taverner Mar 2013 #16

Or not. Porn elicits concern. Shutting down conversations about it is the weak thing imho riderinthestorm Mar 2013 #25

So does building houses, cleaning trucks and demolishing buildings Taverner Mar 2013 #26

I have no idea what you mean by this. Are you implying we shouldn't be concerned about their pain? riderinthestorm Mar 2013 #30

A lot of porn companies are owned and operated by women. randome Mar 2013 #35

Did you read the link in post 25? I'm not sure why it matters if owners are male or female nt riderinthestorm Mar 2013 #44

I did now. I only meant that some of the more 'professional' outfits... randome Mar 2013 #47

Nobody proposed banning the construction industry... brooklynite Mar 2013 #46

And where have I ever, one time, proposed banning the porn industry? riderinthestorm Mar 2013 #53

You personally? brooklynite Mar 2013 #57

Porn always excites the weaker. LanternWaste Mar 2013 #66

if you HAVE to have porn to release, i dont think you have a place to call others weak. lmao. seabeyond Mar 2013 #80

Throwbacks to puritanism LittleBlue Mar 2013 #7

Who is 'they?' nt geek tragedy Mar 2013 #27

Whoever wishes to ban legal porn or restrict expression. n/t LittleBlue Mar 2013 #52

I guess I missed the memo Floyd_Gondolli Mar 2013 #8

Because of another post on the first page RandiFan1290 Mar 2013 #10

Questions re: the unqualified condemnation of those who want to 'ban' porn geek tragedy Mar 2013 #12

"Is it possible to be a decent liberal/progressive human being and think SOME kinds/genres of porn?" LittleBlue Mar 2013 #21

You distorted what I said. geek tragedy Mar 2013 #24

It's not remotely civilized to wonder whether children should be legally raped or molested LittleBlue Mar 2013 #31

I am testing the claim that as long as it's "consenting adults" involved, that geek tragedy Mar 2013 #32

Okay, as long as it's consenting adults LittleBlue Mar 2013 #36

Do progressives have the right to question thucythucy Mar 2013 #55

They have the right to ask anything they want LittleBlue Mar 2013 #58

Good to know you feel this way. thucythucy Mar 2013 #61

Of course then we'd have to have a discussion about "consenting adults" really means... riderinthestorm Mar 2013 #28

I haven't seen any posts calling for a ban sufrommich Mar 2013 #14

Larry Flint pipoman Mar 2013 #23

A lot of ex and exiting porn performers say the same thing. redqueen Mar 2013 #37

It's not a real "career" option for people, and I think some have blinded themselves into twisting duffyduff Mar 2013 #40

"It is anti-sex" redqueen Mar 2013 #43

talking about the effects and harm is not telling people what to do. talking about the effects and seabeyond Mar 2013 #20

What exactly is porn? Yavin4 Mar 2013 #22

the horse. datasuspect Mar 2013 #29

Always going to be a controversy Johnny2X2X Mar 2013 #33

Yeah. This is a little more than disturbing to me. redqueen Mar 2013 #39

Wrong website Johnny2X2X Mar 2013 #59

Yeah, I should move to that right wing paradise, Iceland, redqueen Mar 2013 #65

Sturgeon's law applies at least as much to porn as it does to everything else Fumesucker Mar 2013 #34

There is a technological solution jeff47 Mar 2013 #38

Boys are watching porn on smart phones at school. redqueen Mar 2013 #41

So use the tools the phone company provides jeff47 Mar 2013 #51

Do you think we can pass a law to force the parents of other kids to do so? nt redqueen Mar 2013 #56

No, I just think such incidental viewings aren't going to cause harm jeff47 Mar 2013 #63

Depends on your definition of harm. redqueen Mar 2013 #67

Because teenagers aren't capable of saying shocking things without porn? jeff47 Mar 2013 #68

No, I mean more and more teenage girls reporting that they're being pressured redqueen Mar 2013 #70

Yeah, we need to do a better job of raising our boys. jeff47 Mar 2013 #76

We will have to disagree on that, then... redqueen Mar 2013 #79

IMO, the change was to remove everything but the sex jeff47 Mar 2013 #84

Yeah, maybe the choking, slapping, spitting, facials, AtM, etc... redqueen Mar 2013 #85

Never was particularly flattering to the women. jeff47 Mar 2013 #86

Then don't let them have smartphones. name not needed Mar 2013 #75

Do you think I have some kind of 'Control Other Parents' superpower? redqueen Mar 2013 #77

You're thinking desktops, not laptops, tablets or phones. randome Mar 2013 #42

Nothing says you have to let the kids take those into their room either. (nt) jeff47 Mar 2013 #50

My 15 y/o daughter is fond of a certain small Dr. Who figurine. randome Mar 2013 #54

What you should do is based on what you want to accomplish. jeff47 Mar 2013 #62

You're right, of course. Recognizing harm means taking some sort of action. randome Mar 2013 #71

What about fetish porn? There is porn to cater to everyone's hidden desires. randome Mar 2013 #49

Have there been lots of OPs on DU lately thucythucy Mar 2013 #60

I like soft core porn. It can be done beautifully. In_The_Wind Mar 2013 #64

I like redneck porn. Man opens door for naked lady, helps to get the jack off the tire The Straight Story Mar 2013 #69

I don't know where you get this stuff... NaturalHigh Mar 2013 #72

So is the food at Olive Garden. edbermac Mar 2013 #73

You might be able to eat at the Olive Garden, but.... octothorpe Mar 2013 #81

Wait. Now we're bigots if we don't like porn?? R B Garr Mar 2013 #74

"People who want to ban it are reactionary bigots." ZombieHorde Mar 2013 #78

i like to watch the door-holding fetish stuff arely staircase Mar 2013 #82

1) I'm against all censorship; 2) Not all porn is tasteless. talkingmime Mar 2013 #83

Here's some truly freaky porn: Nevernose Mar 2013 #87