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Sanity Claws

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7. this shows how overpriced texts are

Tue Mar 19, 2013, 02:35 PM

Mar 2013

Why are the books so much more expensive here than abroad? They resellers were able to make so much money because the books sold here and abroad were the same; the only difference was the price.

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Just WOW; Supreme Court upholds first-sale doctrine in textbook resale case [View all] DainBramaged Mar 2013 OP

Very interesting. sadbear Mar 2013 #1

Are you saying Clarence disagreed with Tony??? HERVEPA Mar 2013 #3

This decision was all kinds of weird, huh? sadbear Mar 2013 #4

More likely some big media corp paid Fat Tony under the table n2doc Mar 2013 #14

Interestingly, Thomas and Scalia often disagree about protections of commercial speech Recursion Mar 2013 #13

Thomas does disagree with Scalia, including on big cases. dairydog91 Mar 2013 #42

they have disagreed on 1st amendment(usually porn) cases JI7 Mar 2013 #49

I was quite surprised by the ruling Ichingcarpenter Mar 2013 #2

Wow indeed. The infinite profitability model needs to stand aside. freshwest Mar 2013 #5

Good. Note that Breyer and Ginsburg split their votes: AnotherMcIntosh Mar 2013 #6

They did rule for the outrageous $ penalty to that women Ichingcarpenter Mar 2013 #9

this shows how overpriced texts are Sanity Claws Mar 2013 #7

I think the business model is set Johonny Mar 2013 #16

I've bought books this way through college Indianademocrat91 Mar 2013 #31

Great news. Next up: cheap drugs imported from Canada??? reformist2 Mar 2013 #8

Only if you want to buy used drugs. marybourg Mar 2013 #12

+1. lol. n/t eggplant Mar 2013 #18

I don't get it dreamnightwind Mar 2013 #58

The whole issue is that they HAD been bought once, legally, at retail, in Europe. marybourg Mar 2013 #60

So they're "used" by definition if not in practice. dreamnightwind Mar 2013 #63

Well, no-one's going to come to your house and check marybourg Mar 2013 #64

Good. If they are dumping books cheap in Thialand and gouging us then fuck 'em. n/t lumberjack_jeff Mar 2013 #10

Excellent. I was rooting for that kid. Nye Bevan Mar 2013 #11

This is going to piss Amazon off, big time. dixiegrrrrl Mar 2013 #15

Does this apply to digital media? Nye Bevan Mar 2013 #19

Well, why would it apply ONLY to one format? dixiegrrrrl Mar 2013 #23

The DMCA is not a terribly logical piece of legislation. AtheistCrusader Mar 2013 #27

The difference is the digital version is not sold. It's licensed. jeff47 Mar 2013 #37

"it's hard to declare there has been an actual sale" jberryhill Mar 2013 #53

When you buy a book, you are granted a license for the text. You don't "own" it-- Romulox Mar 2013 #82

You're confusing ownership with copyright. jeff47 Mar 2013 #83

No, I'm not. You own a book like you own a CD-ROM. You license the software/text. Romulox Mar 2013 #84

Again, you're confusing what is owned jeff47 Mar 2013 #85

No. You don't own the text of a book anymore than you own software on a CD-ROM. Romulox Mar 2013 #86

interesting note...Apple and Amazon each are prepping "used" ebooks Spike89 Mar 2013 #45

The first sale doctrine applies to the transfer of the specific copy that was lawfully obtained onenote Mar 2013 #46

First sale doctrine would encompass digital media, provided it's unencumbered by DRM (DMCA). X_Digger Mar 2013 #29

I think they aren't aware of the implications. hootinholler Mar 2013 #20

Yep..first place my brain went... dixiegrrrrl Mar 2013 #24

There are no implications. onenote Mar 2013 #48

Help walk me thru this, if you would.. dixiegrrrrl Mar 2013 #62

This is why the Register of Copyrights testified today that Congress needs to comprehensively update onenote Mar 2013 #71

I predict a new sort of digital evil on the horizon Duer 157099 Mar 2013 #81

Thomas made an extremely rare correct ruling. Dawson Leery Mar 2013 #17

Garth Brooks? sadbear Mar 2013 #22

And why does that principle not also apply to buying drugs in Canada for use here? BlueStreak Mar 2013 #21

Pharmaceutical companies NewJeffCT Mar 2013 #25

The ruling did not address the price mark-up, only the right to resell the book. djean111 Mar 2013 #28

Even so, doesn't the "first sale" ownership argument apply? BlueStreak Mar 2013 #32

Maybe because medicine is different from books? WinkyDink Mar 2013 #35

The first sale doctrine is a specific statutory provision of copyright law onenote Mar 2013 #38

As far as I know, there has never been a copyright issue with ca drugs X_Digger Mar 2013 #41

Not about the pricing Spike89 Mar 2013 #47

The point of books is that the fabrication cost is not a significant part of the value (anymore) Recursion Mar 2013 #79

I think the same can be said of most drugs BlueStreak Mar 2013 #80

AWKWARD- either you side with Antonin Scalia or you side with Clarence Thomas! Nye Bevan Mar 2013 #26

A case in point of why Guilt by Association is a Logical Fallacy. nt stevenleser Mar 2013 #36

Interesting, not always a clear case imo. Babel_17 Mar 2013 #30

If this ruling had gone the other way, Nye Bevan Mar 2013 #33

Maybe people in Third-World nations could be paid more? WinkyDink Mar 2013 #39

+1 jberryhill Mar 2013 #54

Doesn't make me think twice, no. X_Digger Mar 2013 #43

The trouble is you can't have one without the other starroute Mar 2013 #44

I had always assumed that inexpensive export versions would be handled... JVS Mar 2013 #75

Thank God! Corporations want to own things EVEN AFTER THEY SELL THEM. WinkyDink Mar 2013 #34

I think it's the culture of "licensing" Union Scribe Mar 2013 #59

I think when Amazon zapped some book from Kindles it showed who owns the downloads! WinkyDink Mar 2013 #69

"May it spread to music and video next" Pullo Mar 2013 #40

Not new, I did this twenty years ago. Sen. Walter Sobchak Mar 2013 #50

This has some rather wide implications. talkingmime Mar 2013 #51

Well, EA's humiliating Sim City 5 launch kind of proved WHY that's a Bad Idea Occulus Mar 2013 #65

This is embarassing, but I still have a machine that runs the first Sim City. talkingmime Mar 2013 #66

Not at all. Occulus Mar 2013 #67

My C=64 still works too! I know 6510/6502 machine code inside out!!! talkingmime Mar 2013 #68

My son used to buy some of his undergrad math textbooks that way (plus explanations) frazzled Mar 2013 #52

K&R Good. idwiyo Mar 2013 #55

I'm liking it. n/t leeroysphitz Mar 2013 #56

Here is the Actual Opinion, Ginsberg, Kennedy and Scalia dissented happyslug Mar 2013 #57

The underlying question of exhaustion has implications for our trade negotiations Recursion Mar 2013 #78

"May it spread to music and video next" Orrex Mar 2013 #61

Isn't SCOTUS considering an unlocked cellphone case this term? n/t Bolo Boffin Mar 2013 #70

Yes, my beautiful daughter filled me in DainBramaged Mar 2013 #73

You can't mean they actually sided with the little guy for once? liberal_at_heart Mar 2013 #72

The "little guy" was importing hundreds of textbooks to sell at a profit Recursion Mar 2013 #74

No, the little guy is really us. djean111 Mar 2013 #76

Except for those of us who are authors Recursion Mar 2013 #77

Does anyone know if this applies to complimentary copies as well. aikoaiko Mar 2013 #87