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Taverner

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13. That would be nice. Hell, it would be nice for the US to live up to even ONE of its ideals

Wed Feb 1, 2012, 07:10 PM

Feb 2012

But to me, the USA is nothing like it's ideals, and never has been.

Whether it was our genocide of Native Americans, the enslavement of Africans, the Japanese internment camps, My Lai, Panama, pretty much everything we ever did South of our borders, the wars for oil, the invasions of Hawaii, Phillipines, Puerto Rico and Cuba, or any of our current policies.

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Why do you think our flag is so great? [View all] Taverner Feb 2012 OP

No. PDJane Feb 2012 #1

The Flag is honored for the values it's *supposed* to represent. baldguy Feb 2012 #2

Then it should have been duraflame material since it was first raised. Taverner Feb 2012 #3

The best flame retardent would be to enact policies which actually promoted Freedom & Liberty baldguy Feb 2012 #5

That would be nice. Hell, it would be nice for the US to live up to even ONE of its ideals Taverner Feb 2012 #13

I wish this had a like button. +100 amyrose2712 Feb 2012 #43

flags represent ideals qazplm Feb 2012 #4

The Marshall plan was a long time ago Taverner Feb 2012 #12

then pick whatever qazplm Feb 2012 #21

No, I think all governments and all corporations are the source of all inequality Taverner Feb 2012 #23

If only the very rich were truly served qazplm Feb 2012 #29

+1 Muskypundit Feb 2012 #44

yes and yes. soc7 Feb 2012 #6

Thank you, Ronald Reagan.... Taverner Feb 2012 #9

Because it's ours, that's what this all boils down to. Uncle Joe Feb 2012 #7

This message was self-deleted by its author Cali_Democrat Feb 2012 #8

Exactly. Taverner Feb 2012 #10

I deleted my post Cali_Democrat Feb 2012 #11

This is sad. There was a time when you could speak your opinion here Taverner Feb 2012 #14

I must have missed it qazplm Feb 2012 #31

What is sad? Nobody is stopping you, Cali Democrat, or anybody else from expressing an opinion. emulatorloo Feb 2012 #47

there are no "good guys" qazplm Feb 2012 #24

Because it has changed with time, as it was intended to. HopeHoops Feb 2012 #15

Is it really your country tho? Taverner Feb 2012 #17

It's still our flag and one of the beauties of it is that it is legal to burn it. HopeHoops Feb 2012 #25

It is a piece of cloth Angry Dragon Feb 2012 #16

Do not confuse the cylinder-shaped bomb with the rectangular food bag jakeXT Feb 2012 #18

Because it's so flammable? Guy Whitey Corngood Feb 2012 #19

It represents the specific freedom to express love or contempt or anything in between. T S Justly Feb 2012 #20

Because it is complicated. Loudmxr Feb 2012 #22

//Combination of St George cross, Saltire and the St. Patrick's Cross// MichaelMcGuire Feb 2012 #38

OK... *through the mind of an Afghani* JSnuffy Feb 2012 #26

As false advertising it's aces. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2012 #27

Burning one is a stupid tactic that pisses off symbolic thinkers Warpy Feb 2012 #28

the entirety of humanity qazplm Feb 2012 #30

It's still a stupid tactic Warpy Feb 2012 #33

what's a stupid tactic qazplm Feb 2012 #36

Purely symbolic libodem Feb 2012 #32

Let's play the same game with a different perspective onenote Feb 2012 #34

OWS has spent the winter months, doing as you suggest, helping to keep people in their homes sabrina 1 Feb 2012 #48

As a retired military officer I feel ... hack89 Feb 2012 #35

It's a great design from a graphics standpoint. Throd Feb 2012 #37

What do you think these folks think? jberryhill Feb 2012 #39

"oh shit the militia is coming" Muskypundit Feb 2012 #45

A flag is valueless and insignificant, if it is implanted in hollow earth. Thaddeus Kosciuszko Feb 2012 #40

Loving a symbol is silly. nt amyrose2712 Feb 2012 #41

people generally root for their sylveste Feb 2012 #42

Our flag represents the ideals this nation was founded upon. Muskypundit Feb 2012 #46

Let's complicate it a little. Kellerfeller Feb 2012 #49

Uff da... nt MineralMan Feb 2012 #50

Any national flag will cause different reactions in different people treestar Feb 2012 #51