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laundry_queen

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53. It's the whole reason I found DU

Tue Mar 19, 2013, 10:30 PM

Mar 2013

I wasn't for Afghanistan, but though, 'well, gee what else are you going to do' (this was back in my less informed days). Then a few months (a year?) later I heard 9/11 and Iraq in the same sentence coming out of GWB's mouth and I instantly knew and thought - "that FUCKER is LYING!! That FUCKING FUCKER is going to lie to go to war!!" So I went and searched out like minded people and found Bartcop and then wandered over here. Being in Canada and getting normal news meant watching the US channels was like watching news from another dimension - nothing matched or made sense. I knew there was no WMD. I knew there were no Iraqis involved in 9/11. I couldn't believe the crap I was seeing on US 'news'.

DU was the only place where I could read in depth information about what was going on. I lurked for a long time before finally joining in '04.

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My List of DU'ers WHO DID NOT BELIEVE Bush LIES about Invading Iraq! [View all] KoKo Mar 2013 OP

Not a single syllable n/t Fumesucker Mar 2013 #1

I opposed going into SteveG Mar 2013 #80

Me. NV Whino Mar 2013 #2

There were very few here on DU who believed the WMD stuff. ZombieHorde Mar 2013 #3

+1...I had no idea you were HERE at that point ...years ago... KoKo Mar 2013 #5

Me. And I have proof! stevenleser Mar 2013 #4

Since then...You've Changed, though...Becoming Pragmatic and KoKo Mar 2013 #6

Nope, no change. For instance, I supported Afghanistan. stevenleser Mar 2013 #9

Pray to tell how Afghanistan was a justifiable invasion? idwiyo Mar 2013 #12

All the standard arguments. I'm sure you have heard them before. nt stevenleser Mar 2013 #15

You actually still believe that bullshit? As in seriously? WOW. Happy to say I never did. idwiyo Mar 2013 #17

You mean that Al Qaeda camps were in Afghanistan including the leadership? Yes. And they were. nt stevenleser Mar 2013 #18

Or in Pakistan? Or somewhere else? Everything you think you know came from which source again? idwiyo Mar 2013 #27

Do you actually believe the garbage you are trying to shovel in my direction? stevenleser Mar 2013 #40

I definitely don't believe anything that either your or mine government told me. Don't have one idwiyo Mar 2013 #44

Why did you not want to invade the country from where, we were told, most of the sabrina 1 Mar 2013 #74

Why would we invade their country of birth when they are not there? stevenleser Mar 2013 #84

Why would we invade a country they just happened to be in at that time? Why didn't sabrina 1 Mar 2013 #91

"Why would we invade a country they just happened to be in at that time?" Seriously? stevenleser Mar 2013 #97

Careful. You are going to be told you are peddling trash. Or something like it. Because otherwise idwiyo Mar 2013 #86

I'm used to that. I was online posting to Republicans when the Afghanistan invasion sabrina 1 Mar 2013 #94

Did you know that on 12/12/2001 Cheney signed an agreement BlueToTheBone Mar 2013 #107

I'm sure we made arrangements for that and much more. stevenleser Mar 2013 #109

And it doesn't have to be a war for oil... Orsino Mar 2013 #114

I believed in going to Afghanistan too. Texasgal Mar 2013 #41

I think we stayed too long and took our eyes from the ball to attack Iraq. stevenleser Mar 2013 #43

I agree. Texasgal Mar 2013 #46

Afghanistan was for oil. The route to the Caspian sea. Robert Sheer among other great sabrina 1 Mar 2013 #72

No, it wasn't. That is an invention of people who want a reason to be against that war. stevenleser Mar 2013 #85

I feel sorry for you. Really sorry. Unfortunately repeating Shrub's generated BS time after time idwiyo Mar 2013 #88

I feel sorry for you and anyone else whose ideology trumps reality. stevenleser Mar 2013 #90

What sources exactly? Do post some links. I would be very happy to have a look. idwiyo Mar 2013 #92

You're kidding, right? stevenleser Mar 2013 #102

OKlets have a look at these links. idwiyo Mar 2013 #105

LOL! stevenleser Mar 2013 #106

Yes, exactly. International support against terrorist attacks was not under question. idwiyo Mar 2013 #108

You clearly have no knowledge of our history with Afghanistan and the Oil Cartels, the Taliban sabrina 1 Mar 2013 #93

I've seen all of that supposed evidence. We have business dealings with all but 2-3 countries stevenleser Mar 2013 #98

The Congressional Record is a 'conspiracy' now?? Don't try using that old sabrina 1 Mar 2013 #100

Please, the congressional record contains records of millions of business dealings. stevenleser Mar 2013 #103

But when a crime is committed, intelligent people, especially good investigative journalists sabrina 1 Mar 2013 #112

Correlation does not equal causation. There are millions of simultaneous issues we could assert as stevenleser Mar 2013 #113

Mmm, that's what Bush supporters told me exactly, that the whole war for oil thing was sabrina 1 Mar 2013 #115

Something tells me that Bush supporters aren't generally smart enough to come up with that line. nt stevenleser Mar 2013 #116

You call that smart? I am disappointed. And btw you are quite wrong about Bush supporters. sabrina 1 Mar 2013 #117

Will Pitt is One I know for SURE fought against this... KoKo Mar 2013 #7

Yo. WilliamPitt Mar 2013 #8

The Body of Your Work on this... KoKo Mar 2013 #13

The Tikkis Tikki Mar 2013 #10

Never believed a word that came out of their mouths BuelahWitch Mar 2013 #11

I was here, and 5X Mar 2013 #14

YES...WE ALL WERE...and Posted with Pictures of Us FIGHTING BACK KoKo Mar 2013 #16

I was on the other side of the pond when 10 million of us in UK took to the streets. That's almost idwiyo Mar 2013 #21

Post #127 Here, From 2004: WillyT Mar 2013 #19

K&R...! Please folks READ! KoKo Mar 2013 #23

Here's Another... Check Out The Names Here: WillyT Mar 2013 #29

Lot of DU Hall of Famers in that thread. Zorra Mar 2013 #60

Me Too Zorra, Me Too... WillyT Mar 2013 #61

Moi. Le Taz Hot Mar 2013 #20

YES...the ARCHIVES OF DU showed WHO STOOD UP! KoKo Mar 2013 #32

This thread would be cooler TransitJohn Mar 2013 #119

I believed Powell at first,... Deep13 Mar 2013 #22

I did not believe any of it from the first day. jwirr Mar 2013 #24

none arely staircase Mar 2013 #25

Didn`t believe any of it for a nanosecond... opiate69 Mar 2013 #26

I lurked til 2004 but I didn't believe anything that came from that admin from Day 1 Gidney N Cloyd Mar 2013 #28

I remember so vividly Iwillnevergiveup Mar 2013 #30

Add me to the list warrior1 Mar 2013 #31

Am proud to have voiced opposition to this war from the git-go, including a letter to indepat Mar 2013 #33

Back in the day, I was known here as "frankzappa". . . DinahMoeHum Mar 2013 #34

Never Believed A Word Of It Liberal_Dog Mar 2013 #35

If anyone is still Here on DU who Remembers the Push Back... KoKo Mar 2013 #36

Was not on DU yet but was marching in London together with 1 million other Brits. idwiyo Mar 2013 #37

Thank you. ananda Mar 2013 #39

No, Thank You! I remember it well how absolutely batshit crazy it was in US than and every single idwiyo Mar 2013 #45

I marched on Washington, chervilant Mar 2013 #62

I remember British press desperately trying to lower the number of people who were in London. idwiyo Mar 2013 #66

I so agree! chervilant Mar 2013 #73

Our arseholes were paying more attention to anarchists (even though they were perfectly polite and idwiyo Mar 2013 #83

Never from day 1. ananda Mar 2013 #38

like most of the rest of DU at the time, I knew it was bullshit fishwax Mar 2013 #42

Senator Wellstone announced to a small group of supporters in an myrna minx Mar 2013 #47

Some things I wrote back then deutsey Mar 2013 #48

I wasn't on this blog but 2naSalit Mar 2013 #49

aw you KNOW Skittles has always known the TRUTH Skittles Mar 2013 #50

I still have the poster I carried in ONE of the NYC marches I was in pre-Invasion. WinkyDink Mar 2013 #51

Sounds kind of strange these days...but "Who Would Jesus Bomb" KoKo Mar 2013 #54

Still have a 10> yr. Old sign in the yard, even now. Eleanors38 Mar 2013 #58

Awesome! WinkyDink Mar 2013 #118

protested and fought against the war JCMach1 Mar 2013 #52

It's the whole reason I found DU laundry_queen Mar 2013 #53

I got hundreds of posts worth of cred. And nothingshocksmeanymore, Zorra Mar 2013 #55

Me--and I watched the Canadian news programs on News World International Lydia Leftcoast Mar 2013 #56

I and some friends marched down Congress Avenue to protest. Eleanors38 Mar 2013 #57

Dennis Kucinich totally deserves to be honored here ~ The Bloodstained Path, 2002: Zorra Mar 2013 #59

I never believed any of W's excuses for waging aggressive war against Iraq. Lionel Mandrake Mar 2013 #63

i am proud to be a 1 percenter. pansypoo53219 Mar 2013 #64

Having been here for that boil on the ass of history........ DainBramaged Mar 2013 #65

More than a boil marions ghost Mar 2013 #76

Me... nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #67

I knew Bush would be invading Iraq as soon as he was appointed President. baldguy Mar 2013 #68

Me. nt LWolf Mar 2013 #69

Well, of course not. aquart Mar 2013 #70

Almost nobody who was here in the run up to shock and awe believed the lies. hedda_foil Mar 2013 #71

If bu$h said the sky was blue, I'd go outside to check Art_from_Ark Mar 2013 #75

That administration was looking for ANY excuse to attack Iraq . . . HughBeaumont Mar 2013 #77

Me. n/t patricia92243 Mar 2013 #78

Really how much of what any Republican says is believable? gordianot Mar 2013 #79

Both my husband and I not for a nanosecond. Puglover Mar 2013 #81

unfortunately... pipi_k Mar 2013 #82

Anything that unites DU membership that overwhelmingly should be evidence enough for everyone else. randome Mar 2013 #87

oh, hell no. look who was selling it bigtree Mar 2013 #89

I didn't believe one word of it magical thyme Mar 2013 #95

Absolutely DID NOT BELIEVE librechik Mar 2013 #96

I knew it was horse sh@t from the get go... rppper Mar 2013 #99

Tiniore -- Hell Hath No Fury Mar 2013 #101

And You Too, Hell... WillyT Mar 2013 #110

count me on your list! BlueToTheBone Mar 2013 #104

I didn't believe any of it for one second. polly7 Mar 2013 #111