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Peter cotton

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49. Are you seriously asserting that such a proposal has the slightest chance of being enacted?

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hey, what are the murderous deaths of twenty children when commerce is on the line? [View all] spanone Mar 2013 OP

Reid is a realist... Melon_Lord Mar 2013 #1

bullshit spanone Mar 2013 #2

Deep thoughts... Melon_Lord Mar 2013 #4

tell that to the parents and keep your 'deep thoughts' bs to yourself spanone Mar 2013 #6

Emotional hyperbole aside... Melon_Lord Mar 2013 #10

Is emotional hyperbole your new talking point? laundry_queen Mar 2013 #12

Its the latest Wayne Lapierre/Sean Hannity/Rush Limbaugh gun talking point AgingAmerican Mar 2013 #107

Hmm...getting emotional over something besides an AR-15 with a huge mag... jmg257 Mar 2013 #66

It's cute... Melon_Lord Mar 2013 #70

It was the things you choose to get all emotional over that tipped me off. jmg257 Mar 2013 #71

I don't own one... Melon_Lord Mar 2013 #77

Sorry, but as part of a society your rights just might have to be infringed a bit, jmg257 Mar 2013 #79

Ahhh Melon_Lord Mar 2013 #81

No need to go through the NRA list...I KNOW the AWB didn't/doesn't do enough. jmg257 Mar 2013 #86

You missed the point... Melon_Lord Mar 2013 #88

I got the point, you feel mag limits and weapons bans jmg257 Mar 2013 #92

Reid is a coward. baldguy Mar 2013 #5

Mostly because people have no idea what it means Recursion Mar 2013 #7

That's the RW spin about the 1994 assault weapons ban, not what was proposed now. baldguy Mar 2013 #13

No, it's still how the bill is, except it's one feature rather than two Recursion Mar 2013 #14

It also prohibits the transfer of previously manufactured firearms and magazines. Peter cotton Mar 2013 #16

Even if it retroactively confiscated them, it doesn't keep a gunsmith from producing the Shrubmaster Recursion Mar 2013 #20

I didn't say the AWB made sense...! Peter cotton Mar 2013 #25

I guess you missed the part about AR-15s being specifically prohibited, huh? baldguy Mar 2013 #17

I have, have you? You're right: it will not be the AR-15, but the BS-16 Recursion Mar 2013 #19

Pistol grips lessen recoil for faster, more accurate follow up shots AgingAmerican Mar 2013 #29

Neither is true Recursion Mar 2013 #30

Ah, so the gun manufacturers are LYING!! AgingAmerican Mar 2013 #32

Of course they are lying. All manufacturers do Recursion Mar 2013 #34

lol AgingAmerican Mar 2013 #38

What lies are we hearing from the manufacturers of the Slinky? AgingAmerican Mar 2013 #44

That's a fair point; the proposed AWB is far more draconian than the 1994 version. Peter cotton Mar 2013 #15

Right. All those children that will be killed because of Reid's cowardice are real lucky. baldguy Mar 2013 #18

How about the much more numerous children killed by handguns... Recursion Mar 2013 #21

The obvious answer is to prohibit all gun sales. baldguy Mar 2013 #23

But an AWB would make gun sales of semi-automatic rifles go *up*, not down Recursion Mar 2013 #27

Yes, banning things always increases availability, how did we not catch that!! AgingAmerican Mar 2013 #36

Do you honestly not understand that this doesn't ban semi-automatic rifles? Recursion Mar 2013 #39

Do you honestly not understand that 5 minus 2 does not equal 7? AgingAmerican Mar 2013 #42

The stupidity of the new AWB in two pictures. hack89 Mar 2013 #51

From the pistol grip manufacturer: AgingAmerican Mar 2013 #54

So just how much safer is that bottom rifle? hack89 Mar 2013 #57

Recoil management = faster more accurate follow up shots = more dead children in less time AgingAmerican Mar 2013 #58

So Sandy Hook could have only been done by an AR-15? hack89 Mar 2013 #60

Sandy hook WAS done with an AR-15 AgingAmerican Mar 2013 #61

So if there were no AR-15s then Sandy Hook would never had happened? nt hack89 Mar 2013 #63

If there was no AR-15 not as many children would be dead AgingAmerican Mar 2013 #64

They are not. hack89 Mar 2013 #65

So, if they don't stop or lessen the damage from every single mass shooting... AgingAmerican Mar 2013 #67

If you don't concentrate on the deadliest weapons used in the majority of mass shootings hack89 Mar 2013 #68

Gun massacres sell guns AgingAmerican Mar 2013 #73

Calls to ban guns seems to be working fine as well. hack89 Mar 2013 #74

There is no call for banning guns AgingAmerican Mar 2013 #76

At DU there are plenty. An extremist minority I take it? nt hack89 Mar 2013 #78

Actually the gun nuts are the only extremist minority I have seen here. AgingAmerican Mar 2013 #91

The number of guns isn't being reduced through attrition. Peter cotton Mar 2013 #28

What part of "prohibit all gun sales" don't you understand. baldguy Mar 2013 #40

Are you seriously asserting that such a proposal has the slightest chance of being enacted? Peter cotton Mar 2013 #49

Where's you proposal? baldguy Mar 2013 #59

You didn't answer my question, but I'll be happy to answer yours. Peter cotton Mar 2013 #62

So, nothing to actually reduce the ongoing gun massacre baldguy Mar 2013 #72

More guns = more guns in the hands of criminals AgingAmerican Mar 2013 #75

Shrug. You asked. I answered. Peter cotton Mar 2013 #93

As a NYer.. No MattBaggins Mar 2013 #109

To say it's "how they can look" is dishonest. DanTex Mar 2013 #35

Oh, so you're fine with an AR-15 that has a different grip shape? Recursion Mar 2013 #37

All I said was: a pistol grip, forward grip, and folding stock can't honestly be called "cosmetic" DanTex Mar 2013 #80

Yes, I do Recursion Mar 2013 #83

Well, now we are getting somewhere. But here's the thing. DanTex Mar 2013 #90

I said "if anything" it makes it "marginally" safer Recursion Mar 2013 #95

You don't think it makes it easier to handle? DanTex Mar 2013 #102

My audiophile friends swear to me vinyl sounds better too Recursion Mar 2013 #104

If he does not have the votes he does not have the votes krawhitham Mar 2013 #111

And by refusing to put it up for a vote, there's no way for us to know which Dems won't support it. baldguy Mar 2013 #114

RE: Reid ChangeUp106 Mar 2013 #8

Must losing be a sign of weakness? HereSince1628 Mar 2013 #11

Given the choice he would always prefer to win... Melon_Lord Mar 2013 #24

Why must losing always be negative? HereSince1628 Mar 2013 #31

Yeah Right. Harry Reid: Pillar Of Strength. (nt) Paladin Mar 2013 #3

We need a new majority leader in the senate. boston bean Mar 2013 #9

This can just underscore Newest Reality Mar 2013 #22

They are the price we pay for the freedom of the gun manufacturers to make money malaise Mar 2013 #26

Message auto-removed ICallBS Mar 2013 #33

Why would you even say that? The 20 children have just brought the killings to national view. djean111 Mar 2013 #41

Message auto-removed ICallBS Mar 2013 #43

Someone here posts all the child shooting deaths (that can be found and linked to) Every Single Week djean111 Mar 2013 #47

WTF is that about? malaise Mar 2013 #45

Message auto-removed ICallBS Mar 2013 #48

People here talk about a lot of gun deaths. djean111 Mar 2013 #52

Well the death of 20 under eight children and their teachers days before Christmas malaise Mar 2013 #55

Much of the AWB is a deeply flawed approach to reducing gun violence. aikoaiko Mar 2013 #46

Would it have stopped him, no... AgingAmerican Mar 2013 #50

There is no evidence that AWB grips versus standard grips significantly reduce firing rates aikoaiko Mar 2013 #53

Yes, the manufacturers are lying!! AgingAmerican Mar 2013 #56

As someone who regularly gets a chance to use both... Melon_Lord Mar 2013 #84

The US military doesn't use forward grips, which is what that press release is about (nt) Recursion Mar 2013 #85

Yes, we all understand it doesn't nearly go far enough. We also understand jmg257 Mar 2013 #69

It's not a compromise; it's simply a stupid idea that doesn't address anything important at all Recursion Mar 2013 #87

Of course, that's what most assault weapons are... jmg257 Mar 2013 #89

The problem has never been what guns are available, but to whom they are available Recursion Mar 2013 #97

Agreed. Currently if they are available to you and I, they are available to just about everyone. jmg257 Mar 2013 #98

Which is why I support universal background checks on all transfers, and stopping GOP stonewalling.. Recursion Mar 2013 #99

I think we talked about this before, but honestly I forget - would you support jmg257 Mar 2013 #100

I would. Militias generally have musters, you know? Recursion Mar 2013 #101

It only addresses the ability of the mass shooter to kill more victims faster AgingAmerican Mar 2013 #94

Good question! Why are you so emotional over the grip shape of guns? Recursion Mar 2013 #96

I'm not AgingAmerican Mar 2013 #103

I'm not bent out of shape over the infringement. I don't think the AWB is a "rights infringement" Recursion Mar 2013 #105

Hmmmm, now where have I heard that before? AgingAmerican Mar 2013 #106

I wouldn't know. I've never watched them. Recursion Mar 2013 #108

Watch it AgingAmerican Mar 2013 #110

Clearly Recursion Mar 2013 #113

You should AgingAmerican Mar 2013 #115

Well, we should stop making Sean Hannity and Michelle Malkin right, then Recursion Mar 2013 #116

The proposed bill would not reduce the number of guns bought at all. aikoaiko Mar 2013 #117

Right. But one thing about laws...they can always be modified to avoid grip change bypasses jmg257 Mar 2013 #118

If I were to say here... 99Forever Mar 2013 #82

to gun lover's inconvenience in their love affair with guns means more than the samsingh Mar 2013 #112