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16. I'm not sure you could have said it any better.

Reply to stevenleser (Reply #4)

Wed Mar 20, 2013, 03:37 PM

Mar 2013

There is definitely a freeper-esque moral absolute streak here on DU.

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I wonder what a liberal Roman Catholics lurking on this site must think of all these posts. [View all] hrmjustin Mar 2013 OP

sigh Marrah_G Mar 2013 #1

Atheist here ... ex-catholic Trajan Mar 2013 #2

They have not done that for awhile. hrmjustin Mar 2013 #3

opus Dei still has wet dreams about the good olde days ChairmanAgnostic Mar 2013 #71

Opes Dei scare me! hrmjustin Mar 2013 #73

me, too. ChairmanAgnostic Mar 2013 #74

For sake of historical accuracy BainsBane Mar 2013 #38

Of course there were atheists at the time of the Inquisition. MNBrewer Mar 2013 #45

really? BainsBane Mar 2013 #53

From wikipedia MNBrewer Mar 2013 #56

I think it's important to remember BainsBane Mar 2013 #61

Of course the 11th through 16th centuries had different ways of thinking MNBrewer Mar 2013 #62

possibly BainsBane Mar 2013 #66

we can call this the 'atheist of the gaps' phenomenon. Phillip McCleod Mar 2013 #95

What are you even talking about? BainsBane Mar 2013 #100

i think i made myself abundantly clear. Phillip McCleod Mar 2013 #101

Making yourself clear would require BainsBane Mar 2013 #105

How about Cro-Magnon Man? Rex Mar 2013 #72

No, the word was not coined in the 18th century. MNBrewer Mar 2013 #82

So are the first known atheists from France? BainsBane Mar 2013 #88

I doubt it MNBrewer Mar 2013 #94

In the linked text BainsBane Mar 2013 #96

not that much different from the modern usage if you think about it.. Phillip McCleod Mar 2013 #97

Excuse me? BainsBane Mar 2013 #98

Christopher Marlowe, for example. MNBrewer Mar 2013 #58

interesting example BainsBane Mar 2013 #67

People that did not believe in the Christan God existed long before the term Rex Mar 2013 #46

but did they believe in no God? BainsBane Mar 2013 #55

I believe it has more to do with being an ex-Catholic then atheist. Rex Mar 2013 #57

my point is there was no such thing BainsBane Mar 2013 #65

My point is that the poster is correct. Rex Mar 2013 #70

No, he is not correct BainsBane Mar 2013 #75

Well you are wrong. He would be tortured for giving up his faith. Rex Mar 2013 #76

I read your link, and I apologize for not doing so earlier. BainsBane Mar 2013 #86

Well what strikes you as highly unlikely is fine since it is your opinion. Rex Mar 2013 #114

What evidence do you have to indicate that? BainsBane Mar 2013 #116

The fact that you state that people did not have the ability to believe Rex Mar 2013 #117

I didn't say that at all. BainsBane Mar 2013 #119

Go for it, you really should. Rex Mar 2013 #120

I thought you might be interested in learning about something BainsBane Mar 2013 #121

Trajan made a correct statement Rex Mar 2013 #122

well this book connects atheism to modernity BainsBane Mar 2013 #123

You can keep on discussing apples to oranges. Rex Mar 2013 #126

Atheism doesn't require the belief in no god, just not believing in A god. MNBrewer Mar 2013 #60

so you are say pagans are Athetists? BainsBane Mar 2013 #64

Belief in any number of gods (>0) is not atheism MNBrewer Mar 2013 #81

so my original statement was correct BainsBane Mar 2013 #83

Not quite MNBrewer Mar 2013 #84

Okay BainsBane Mar 2013 #87

The quickest way to the rack and thumbscrew Warpy Mar 2013 #99

Appearing before the Inquisition wasn't optional BainsBane Mar 2013 #102

How long ago was that? RVN VET Mar 2013 #59

Not long enough Trajan Mar 2013 #93

No kidding, the consequences were horrific Warpy Mar 2013 #103

There is a freeper-esque "Moral absolutes" streak running through a segment of DU. stevenleser Mar 2013 #4

Thank you for posting this! hrmjustin Mar 2013 #5

I am not sure of your point. Are you against criticism aimed at the Catholic Church? rhett o rick Mar 2013 #10

No, and I have engaged in some measured criticism of the church. As you can hear from my latest show stevenleser Mar 2013 #12

Sorry, I didnt get that at all from your post #4. Seemed to me that you were trying rhett o rick Mar 2013 #17

I wouldn't try to do that but I am wary of the potential consequences of doing it awkwardly. stevenleser Mar 2013 #22

I would support any effort to discourage attacks on any DU members. Religions, policies, programs, rhett o rick Mar 2013 #25

a reach out liberal_at_heart Mar 2013 #28

I'd be interested to hear what you think of that segment. nt stevenleser Mar 2013 #33

Sure. I haven't listened to it yet but you have peaked my interest. liberal_at_heart Mar 2013 #39

I think that you are exactly right. AnotherMcIntosh Mar 2013 #80

Haven't you seen the MANY posts recently condemning rank and file Catholics pnwmom Mar 2013 #18

Yes I have seen them. And I have stated over and over that I object to rhett o rick Mar 2013 #27

I think the post you were responding to was reacting to the many posts attacking pnwmom Mar 2013 #30

Yes, I have reread the post and might have been mistaken. I will support any effort rhett o rick Mar 2013 #36

+1. n/t pnwmom Mar 2013 #14

I'm not sure you could have said it any better. liberal_at_heart Mar 2013 #16

I totally agree. Attempts to stifle discussion is certainly "freeper-esque". nm rhett o rick Mar 2013 #21

attempts to stifle bullying yes liberal_at_heart Mar 2013 #23

Yes I agree. nm rhett o rick Mar 2013 #29

If some Catholics want to leave the church no one here is telling them no to liberal_at_heart Mar 2013 #32

Funny. No one objects when DUers make fun of Pat Robertson for his JDPriestly Mar 2013 #63

Good points. Perhaps blue-collar Catholic voters is another constituency Eleanors38 Mar 2013 #68

They already are gone to a great extent. JVS Mar 2013 #113

Unless they were born yesterday, they might realize this is a discussion board and if they.. Tikki Mar 2013 #6

I consider the source and move on..n/t monmouth3 Mar 2013 #7

I only wish all of us on DU BainsBane Mar 2013 #8

. hrmjustin Mar 2013 #9

Easy question for ME to answer Rider3 Mar 2013 #11

respect is pretty rare on DU liberal_at_heart Mar 2013 #13

This seems like an excellent way to get Catholic lurkers to decide this isn't the place for them. pnwmom Mar 2013 #15

If the ratio of denunciations of DU bigotry/actual instances of DU bigotry geek tragedy Mar 2013 #19

We are all full of contradictions my friend. hrmjustin Mar 2013 #26

I myself have difficulty with people picking their battles geek tragedy Mar 2013 #31

Saying the church is wrong on those issues is my opinion too. hrmjustin Mar 2013 #34

Meh. People can identify how they want as far as I'm concerned. geek tragedy Mar 2013 #37

I wonder why people focus on the noise of the DU Johonny Mar 2013 #20

Well said. Some here are righteous bullies. They think they are solidly right rhett o rick Mar 2013 #35

Thanks for saying that. timdog44 Mar 2013 #24

Nope. Not even a little bit. Zoeisright Mar 2013 #40

Your point about financial support is interesting but what about a person who just goes to mass? hrmjustin Mar 2013 #41

That Catholics are unwelcome. onehandle Mar 2013 #42

Last time I looked you could be any religion you want and still be Pakid Mar 2013 #43

I have probably posted some less than polite comments MynameisBlarney Mar 2013 #44

Since brown Christians (and lot of black ones) are mostly RCC, DevonRex Mar 2013 #47

Thank you for your post. hrmjustin Mar 2013 #48

great post. liberal_at_heart Mar 2013 #50

Thanks. DevonRex Mar 2013 #85

Exactly! BainsBane Mar 2013 #92

IMO, "liberal Roman Catholic" is an oxymoron... SidDithers Mar 2013 #49

Just like not all democrats or republicans agree on every issue not all RC believe in what the hrmjustin Mar 2013 #51

That is a bigoted statement. You are going on ignore. liberal_at_heart Mar 2013 #69

Virtual yawn! corneliamcgillicutty Mar 2013 #78

millions of people are BainsBane Mar 2013 #91

What, people can't question the practices of the Catholic church? Apophis Mar 2013 #52

That is not what i said. hrmjustin Mar 2013 #54

Because that is exactly not what the OP posted. nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #77

Absolutely not what the OP said. Agschmid Mar 2013 #90

Some people are more devoted to Atheism than wercal Mar 2013 #79

Well the person who is ignoring you is making the mistake. Just FYI. n/t Agschmid Mar 2013 #89

Thank you my friend. hrmjustin Mar 2013 #109

I agree. liberal_at_heart Mar 2013 #111

Thank you my friend. hrmjustin Mar 2013 #112

Can't they talk about the Protestants & Lutherans a little.. Historic NY Mar 2013 #104

I hate a great number of things about the Catholic Church, and yet gollygee Mar 2013 #106

I don't get it canoegirl Mar 2013 #107

Your exactly right about that... Historic NY Mar 2013 #108

Some would like to make it an all or nothing, all evil or all good, thing liberal_at_heart Mar 2013 #110

Want the truth from a Liberal Roman Catholic? Lady Freedom Returns Mar 2013 #115

I am sorry that some are posting some hurtful stuff. hrmjustin Mar 2013 #124

I am so sorry you have been the target of hate on this board. liberal_at_heart Mar 2013 #127

+1000 hrmjustin Mar 2013 #128

thank you hrmjustin liberal_at_heart Mar 2013 #129

NO ONE xfundy Mar 2013 #118

People have told people to leave there church. hrmjustin Mar 2013 #125

+1 n/t Lady Freedom Returns Mar 2013 #130