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cthulu2016

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23. The "plus interest" figure is cheap PR

Thu Mar 21, 2013, 12:45 PM

Mar 2013

I will never applaud important issues being dragged into the mire of spin.

A dollar of interest payment in 2053 is a 2053 dollar. That is smaller than a 2003 dollar... by a lot.

If someone gave the total nominal cost of a house with a mortgage the total is shocking. Now, if someone claimed that the nominal total of all payments is what is really paid for the house they would be advancing an agenda, not trying to give an accurate picture of cost, because interest in the future is paid with devalued dollars.

$2 Trillion is plenty to be upset about. That is a great sum of money.

And, unlike $6 trillion, the figure does not demand to be dismissed or suggest that the speaker is running some spin, rather than trying to provide the most honest view of something.

When you are on the right side, be scrupulously honest. Gilding the lilly never helps.

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Yeah, That's Off By 6 God-Damned TRILLION Dollars... [View all] Hissyspit Mar 2013 OP

Com'on...what's 6 trillion between friends, eh? CincyDem Mar 2013 #1

Remember, "It's just a bunch of numbers" Politicalboi Mar 2013 #2

Don't worry, we have QEinifinity to handle it and other spending problems pediatricmedic Mar 2013 #3

�real, imagined, and staged� johnnyreb Mar 2013 #4

Meh, the wars(s) were free. obxhead Mar 2013 #5

Were not past war paid for by the taxpayer as they were fought. Oldtimeralso Mar 2013 #6

The hidden/off the books cost of GWs war ReRe Mar 2013 #7

All of that debt makes someone very rich, and ripens the US for Greece-style "austerity". Fire Walk With Me Mar 2013 #8

Many of us voted for the anti-war candidate, Obama. But which Senate Democrats AnotherMcIntosh Mar 2013 #9

And the whole nation was lied to with the most influential media being way complicit, taking xtraxritical Mar 2013 #24

Yes. And it is more difficult to continue to be duplicitous. AnotherMcIntosh Mar 2013 #32

How did they know that when mercymechap Mar 2013 #34

I'm guessing they didn't know for sure NewJeffCT Mar 2013 #36

Actually, here's the list of 21 Senate Democrats who did not believed in the WH Iraq justifications: AnotherMcIntosh Mar 2013 #44

What Neocon Paul Wolfowitz Said dem in texas Mar 2013 #10

Yeah, but chervilant Mar 2013 #41

Comb licking fucker. lonestarnot Mar 2013 #48

K & R !!! WillyT Mar 2013 #11

Iraq War The Sequel Rain Mcloud Mar 2013 #12

I have looked for years for a clip of that asshole John Snow vanlassie Mar 2013 #13

I had forgotten about that guy. Hissyspit Mar 2013 #14

kick nt Hissyspit Mar 2013 #15

+ The billions of dollars in higher gas prices Beakybird Mar 2013 #16

Oh, raising the danger code to orange meant higher gas prices.... mountain grammy Mar 2013 #49

Keep in mind that money went to the politically connected. Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #17

K&R Solly Mack Mar 2013 #18

Moron* catapulted the propaganda to further enrich and increase the power of the wealthy. Javaman Mar 2013 #19

Ain't that the truth! mercymechap Mar 2013 #33

So did chervilant Mar 2013 #42

"C'mon, just let me put the tip in." Orsino Mar 2013 #20

lol! NYtoBush-Drop Dead Mar 2013 #22

Send the Bill to Bush, his children, Bid Dick, his children NYtoBush-Drop Dead Mar 2013 #21

The "plus interest" figure is cheap PR cthulu2016 Mar 2013 #23

Austerity marions ghost Mar 2013 #25

Shake Halliburton and see how much of it falls out. aquart Mar 2013 #26

And Bush gets to live out a nice cozy life deutsey Mar 2013 #27

I'm sure you meant mercymechap Mar 2013 #30

I've tried to erase that from my memory deutsey Mar 2013 #31

So sorry, but mercymechap Mar 2013 #51

Flowers and chocolates don't come cheap. chollybocker Mar 2013 #28

Ha, ha, according to some Republican/conservatives mercymechap Mar 2013 #29

Meh...the Pentagon loses that much annually. Rex Mar 2013 #35

the Pentagon loses $6 trillion annually? NewJeffCT Mar 2013 #38

No, I kid some...but yes they did lose trillions Rex Mar 2013 #39

Only six-trillion? Newest Reality Mar 2013 #37

What a great subject for a Michael Moore doc. snagglepuss Mar 2013 #40

Meant to steal oil, while the rich & their corporations & contractors making hundreds of billions LaPera Mar 2013 #43

Remember the guy they fired for saying SomethingFishy Mar 2013 #45

No wonder The Wizard Mar 2013 #46

W lied about EVERYTHING. blkmusclmachine Mar 2013 #47

I remember waking up to the news that Saddam was caught mountain grammy Mar 2013 #50