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99th_Monkey

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Thu Mar 21, 2013, 03:36 PM Mar 2013

WTF? Ezra Klein is blaming "old people" for deficit [View all]

Has Mr. Klein been swilling Tea Party KoolAid on the sly? This is disgusting.
The entire tone of this article is chillingly ageist and hugely misleading.

To try to cover his heartless ass, Klein even admits in the fine print at end of
article that rising health care costs ARE indeed a huge problem, after spending
the entire article torturing and tweaking data suggesting otherwise; i.e. laying
the blame squarely at the feet of US having "too many old people".


What does Mr. Klein suggest we do about having too many "old people"?
Either he's setting the stage for euthanizing everyone over 70, OR he's simply
blowing rainbows up the ass of the 1%, giving them cover for cutting SS and
Medicare benefits. Either way, it's a very ugly picture.

FUCK YOU EZRA KLEIN!!

PS - to see his graphs, you'll need to use the link, as they didn't copy/paste
with the text.

Our coming deficits are driven by old people, not health inflation
by Ezra Klein * March 20, 2013

You’ve heard — perhaps on this very blog! — that our long-term deficits are almost entirely driven by health-care costs. That’s true over the next 50, 60, 70 years, which is, absurdly, the time frame people often talk in. But over the next 20 years, it’s not quite right.

A more accurate way to put it would be that in the coming decades, new spending is almost entirely driven by health-care programs. But what’s really driving the spending in those programs is the aging of the population, not the rise in health-care costs. Over at the Concord Coalition’s blog, Joshua Gordon makes this point in an unusually clear way — by which I mean, of course, with graphs.

Here’s a breakdown of new spending by program between 2012 and 2037. As you can see, Medicare and Medicaid far outpace Social Security, and all programs that are not Medicare, Medicaid or Social Security are expected to shrink as a percentage of the economy:

There are two reasons health-care programs could be spending more. One is that health-care costs are going up. The other is that more people are using them. We typically talk about the problem as if the problem is rising costs. But over the next 20 years, the cost increases are driven by more people.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/03/20/our-coming-deficits-are-driven-by-old-people-not-health-inflation/?wprss=rss_ezra-klein&wpisrc=nl_wonk

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What's wrong with this? elleng Mar 2013 #1
And it means it is a temporary problem (in the long term view) frazzled Mar 2013 #3
I'm one, too. elleng Mar 2013 #4
But loyalsister Mar 2013 #8
But thats why we had our FICA deduction raised Cleita Mar 2013 #14
Great post Cleita! amandabeech Mar 2013 #33
no duh. 99th_Monkey Mar 2013 #6
You're overreacting DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2013 #10
"deficits driven by old people" <-- sums up Klein's argument 99th_Monkey Mar 2013 #26
no. the problem is not driven by aging of the population. HiPointDem Mar 2013 #42
The baby boomers ARE the biggest strain on the deficit... Generation_Why Mar 2013 #2
Ditto, I prefer your suggested solutions. elleng Mar 2013 #5
I also agree with raising the cap 99th_Monkey Mar 2013 #7
Your suggestion would really solve several issues but not because Social Security Cleita Mar 2013 #15
no. they are not. and no, everyone doesn't 'know' that. only people who unquestioningly HiPointDem Mar 2013 #43
There is a demographic BULGE cthulu2016 Mar 2013 #9
Please see 99th_Monkey Mar 2013 #12
Every article like this, serves only to provide "cover" and seeming justification 99th_Monkey Mar 2013 #16
+1. and so many democrats eat it up. HiPointDem Mar 2013 #44
Thanks for noticing 99th_Monkey Mar 2013 #45
My deepest apologies . . . Brigid Mar 2013 #11
No kidding. 99Forever Mar 2013 #17
I'm a pre-baby boomer but contributed to your Social Security 2/3 of my working life and I Cleita Mar 2013 #19
*sniff sniff* Brigid Mar 2013 #21
Might wanna actually read the article. jeff47 Mar 2013 #25
Yes ... old white rethuglicans. lpbk2713 Mar 2013 #13
Wow. It's not "old people" - it's a health care industry engaging in PRICE GOUGING! reformist2 Mar 2013 #18
True. If we had gotten single payer or Medicare for all, it would have been possible to Cleita Mar 2013 #20
Quite true. Brigid Mar 2013 #23
Actually, the entire point of this article is to show that it isn't. jeff47 Mar 2013 #24
He ignores the fact that prices are already at unacceptable levels. It invalidates anything else he reformist2 Mar 2013 #27
No, he doesn't ignore that at all. jeff47 Mar 2013 #32
Unlike you, I think cutting the price of drugs by 90% will definitely fix the problem! reformist2 Mar 2013 #34
Math. It's not on your side. jeff47 Mar 2013 #39
I know. Klein tries to have it both ways, which obscures the truth 99th_Monkey Mar 2013 #29
end-of-life care is a HUGE chunk of the overall health care system WooWooWoo Mar 2013 #22
He's not blaming old people for anything. name not needed Mar 2013 #28
No, he really isn't. jeff47 Mar 2013 #30
You'd better read the whole article. Lil Missy Mar 2013 #31
Whatever - i did read "the whole article" 99th_Monkey Mar 2013 #35
I have to wonder if the young are saving enough redstatebluegirl Mar 2013 #36
Thank you. 99th_Monkey Mar 2013 #37
To be fair... McDiggy Mar 2013 #38
Why is anyone surprised by anything Ezra Klein has to say? I've mentioned it before, but I remember sabrina 1 Mar 2013 #40
Good to know 99th_Monkey Mar 2013 #41
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