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40. If my friend raped someone, I would no longer be a friend to him.

Thu Mar 21, 2013, 04:40 PM

Mar 2013

There is no moral ambuiguity, no dilemma.

But now let's say one or two of my friends does something stupid or evil or criminal. Say, it's armed robbery.

Now, here you are finding out about this. What are you supposed to do? What is "the right" thing to do? What would YOU want your friend to do, if YOU were in the same situation that your friend is in? Most people put "friends first".

Holy fucking rape apologism--see part in bold.

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So you�re tired of hearing about �rape culture�? [View all] redqueen Mar 2013 OP

people only object to being called a rape culture, in their own culture La Lioness Priyanka Mar 2013 #1

Thank you, that is an incredibly important point. nt redqueen Mar 2013 #2

or in saudi or iran or anywhere else on earth but where they live. La Lioness Priyanka Mar 2013 #3

Or even just not in their peer group. redqueen Mar 2013 #5

We all know the really important question is Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2013 #13

or, what i heard this last round, it is certain PARTS of the country. Connecticut anyone. nt seabeyond Mar 2013 #22

great point- we had an educated DUer from NYC claiming there were "pockets" that excluded bettyellen Mar 2013 #29

True. Solly Mack Mar 2013 #9

Same as the sexism episode last weekend MattBaggins Mar 2013 #26

yup. we are especially defensive when power is at stake La Lioness Priyanka Mar 2013 #36

Exactly ismnotwasm Mar 2013 #55

Please click the link and read the blog riqster Mar 2013 #4

+1 nt Zorra Mar 2013 #6

proud to kick n/t Helen Reddy Mar 2013 #7

K&R Solly Mack Mar 2013 #8

The first rule of Rape Culture is to not talk about Rape Culture. nt geek tragedy Mar 2013 #10

Rape Culture is where a Cheerleader is required to Downwinder Mar 2013 #11

Ugh Helen Reddy Mar 2013 #14

I'll be tired of hearing about rape culture when we no longer live in a rape culture Orrex Mar 2013 #12

so it's rape culture hfojvt Mar 2013 #15

Nitpicking cherry-picked examples to minimize the problem? redqueen Mar 2013 #25

Check out the part where he asks geek tragedy Mar 2013 #41

Nobody wants to be a traitor? WTF are they friends with rapists, for fuck's sake? bettyellen Mar 2013 #31

Nobody wanting to "be a traitor" to a rapist = rape culture. n/t gollygee Mar 2013 #32

That's why I liked this blog so much. redqueen Mar 2013 #37

Yeah, that big moral obligation of whether to stop geek tragedy Mar 2013 #39

If my friend raped someone, I would no longer be a friend to him. geek tragedy Mar 2013 #40

"Let's take rape out of the equation for a second" Iggo Mar 2013 #43

Not wanting to be a traitor is exactly within the realm of rape culture. Gravitycollapse Mar 2013 #53

accurately illustrates Burke's truism, "All that evil requires is for good men to do nothing". LanternWaste Mar 2013 #70

Can we at least posit the existence of a prevailing "anti-rape culture"? Comrade Grumpy Mar 2013 #16

So serious that two young men got 1 to 2 years for it? Rex Mar 2013 #17

Sentences vary, for various reasons, some good, some not so much. Comrade Grumpy Mar 2013 #20

Prevailing? Hardly. redqueen Mar 2013 #27

You're still talking a very small segment of society that does these things SpartanDem Mar 2013 #30

This thread is about rape culture, not rapists. redqueen Mar 2013 #33

Many, but do most? SpartanDem Mar 2013 #38

What is consistently overlooked is the number of victims, of either sex, who say nothing. redqueen Mar 2013 #42

so true! when I told my cousin that I didn't want to hang out with his friend bettyellen Mar 2013 #50

Experiences like yours are so very sadly common. redqueen Mar 2013 #54

OMG, yes they are. It is still really hard for me to characterize it as an attempted rape... bettyellen Mar 2013 #57

That is one of the reasons rape culture is so persistent. redqueen Mar 2013 #58

Theories on rape culture also seek to redefine what constitutes "rape." Gravitycollapse Mar 2013 #56

we must deconstruct. and that is where so many, too many, the vast majority fight. seabeyond Mar 2013 #66

Who here exactly is stating they are tired of it? Rex Mar 2013 #18

Not my title. redqueen Mar 2013 #28

Now that is sad. Rex Mar 2013 #60

There's an entire 'official' DU group full of people geek tragedy Mar 2013 #34

I have been on juries where people alerted on the MERE MENTION of rape culture! bettyellen Mar 2013 #51

We do what we can do olddots Mar 2013 #19

Rape culture is when a woman is raped and forced to stay with that person cause that person is her Arcanetrance Mar 2013 #21

Recommended me b zola Mar 2013 #23

it's just like racism, sexism and homphobia noiretextatique Mar 2013 #24

Rape and other sexual assault are both part of our entertainment loyalsister Mar 2013 #35

really? svu is always discusing how hard it is to get women to come forward La Lioness Priyanka Mar 2013 #44

I know they say that loyalsister Mar 2013 #45

maybe i just remember the times they didnt get the guy La Lioness Priyanka Mar 2013 #46

Those are good points loyalsister Mar 2013 #47

fair point La Lioness Priyanka Mar 2013 #59

If they're showing many types of victims, I will give them credit for that. redqueen Mar 2013 #48

rape in too many movies have become sexualized to get the watcher off, not horrified. seabeyond Mar 2013 #67

I agree loyalsister Mar 2013 #69

Many of the same people who are "tired of hearing about rape culture"... YoungDemCA Mar 2013 #49

It drains you. But you must not give up the fight. CrispyQ Mar 2013 #52

such a great post- but the comments are just embarrassing.... bettyellen Mar 2013 #61

K&R Raffi Ella Mar 2013 #62

Geez, "all men are rapists"? They really can't stop feeling sorry for themselves, can they? redqueen Mar 2013 #63

This message was self-deleted by its author Sheldon Cooper Mar 2013 #64

Your point about the admins is so true: Sheldon Cooper Mar 2013 #65

You can always start your own web site. Comrade Grumpy Mar 2013 #72

take the fuckin abuse is damn right. tone... not so confrontational, my ass. you know, seabeyond Mar 2013 #68

Holy crap. That site is a cesspool. MadrasT Mar 2013 #71

Wow, just stumbled on this one. redqueen Mar 2013 #73