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slackmaster

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55. The term is anchored firmly to the late 1960s and early 1970s. I can assure you it wasn't bigoted...
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 07:37 PM
Mar 2013

...at the time because although it may have been intended as pejorative by some at the time, it was unashamedly embraced by the young Christian revivalists at whom it was aimed. I remember the times very well - There were always a few of them around me that I was aware of starting in 1971.

Two young men who sang in the school choir with me were caught up in the movement. I remember how they signed my yearbook that year. One signed his name with "Servant of Jesus," the other as "Servant of our lord Jesus." Both clean-cut, well-behaved and studious, neither was even slightly bothered by being called Jesus Freaks even though they weren't hippies. (ETA - The youth for Jesus movement provided a more socially acceptable entree into hippie culture than did the extant Flower Children.)

I thought they were a little eccentric but in the context of the time and the place they didn't seem really out of line. Most of us including me did practice some form of religion - Mostly Christians, a significant Jewish community, a Buddhist here, a Bahai or two, and even a few Muslims. 1971 was also the first year I became aware of openly homosexual schoolmates - Sitting right next to me in choir along with the Jesus Freaks and most of the hottest girls in school. It was a great time of expansion of my personal horizons. It was a good time of peace and cooperation in spite of the backdrop of the Vietnam War. Even Republicans and Democrats intermarried, something you would never expect to see if your only window on the world of politics was the present Democratic Underground.

Trying to tag a term so firmly rooted to a specific time and to some extent place in our culture with a term like "bigoted" by placing it in a contemporary context makes no sense to me. The Jesus Freaks were a phenomenon of the past, as were the Holy Rollers, Bible Thumpers, Happy Clappys, and the various kinds of people who have been simply called Fundamentalists over the centuries.

The real Jesus Freaks are almost as long gone as the Beatniks. I don't have a problem with people using the terms in a modern context, but please don't try to imbue them with value judgements that weren't appropriate when the terms were being used in their own current lexicon.

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Is the term "Jesus Freak" bigoted? [View all] el_bryanto Mar 2013 OP
Absolutely yes! hrmjustin Mar 2013 #1
I haven't heard that term since the 1970s, sufrommich Mar 2013 #2
Yep. el_bryanto Mar 2013 #4
Me too! etherealtruth Mar 2013 #18
I remember 'Jesus Junkie' being more common RZM Mar 2013 #35
I used that phrase in a song I wrote last year... Dr Hobbitstein Mar 2013 #38
I used to call my neighbor "Jesus Whore" but that was his actual name. Bucky Mar 2013 #43
It seems to have morphed over the years KamaAina Mar 2013 #53
No, just antiquated... Blue_Tires Mar 2013 #3
No. By the end of the 1970s, Fundamentalism had been co-opted by Jerry Falwell and the "Moral... slackmaster Mar 2013 #56
Way back when it was in vogue I think it was a term "Jesus Freaks" came up with for themselves. Gidney N Cloyd Mar 2013 #5
I think so too. I don't remember it having sufrommich Mar 2013 #10
It's my experience that only Wrigley disparagers talk about Bleacher Bums as "Cubs Freaks" HereSince1628 Mar 2013 #6
I do not love the DH OriginalGeek Mar 2013 #15
We non-religious folk are not allowed to use the JF-word OriginalGeek Mar 2013 #7
Yes, and No. Applied to all Christians, yes. Applied to Jesus Freaks, no. cthulu2016 Mar 2013 #8
Thank you for the history el_bryanto Mar 2013 #12
I think most current usage is highly derogatory, but the bigotry question is not simple cthulu2016 Mar 2013 #22
It is what the term means however. The Churches that sprang from that movement are still thriving. Bluenorthwest Mar 2013 #48
I Was a Part of That in the 70s On the Road Mar 2013 #31
Bible Thumper would be more polite lunatica Mar 2013 #9
yet ChristoFascist is more accurate. uselessobot Mar 2013 #17
No more than Mohammed Freak or Moses Freak. Jews and Muslims are freaks too The Straight Story Mar 2013 #11
Depends on to whom one is referring to and what the intent of the speaker. KittyWampus Mar 2013 #13
If I want 1000 angry replies to my OP, I'd refer to "Atheist Freaks" in the title nt Dreamer Tatum Mar 2013 #14
I'll take it! defacto7 Mar 2013 #57
Sometimes. NCTraveler Mar 2013 #16
Just like the word "teabagger" they coined the phrase. Initech Mar 2013 #19
Um ... dawg Mar 2013 #33
True. But DC Talk are the ones who used it in their favor. Initech Mar 2013 #36
That's just an example of using a slur as a point of pride. dawg Mar 2013 #40
I know lots of Born Again Christians who call themselves that n/t FreeState Mar 2013 #20
I have to vote for Totally Not... TeeYiYi Mar 2013 #21
And just what were you guys smoking? HubertHeaver Mar 2013 #37
Well they claim to love jesus and they're certainly freaks (in the classic sense) tularetom Mar 2013 #23
freak in the "classic sense" means drug abuser Bucky Mar 2013 #45
Jesus Freak history UnrepentantLiberal Mar 2013 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author bike man Mar 2013 #25
What if we pipi_k Mar 2013 #26
I see a rainbow of nuance here. Bucky Mar 2013 #44
Makes me think of this: LeftInTX Mar 2013 #27
Uh oh..... Liberal Jesus Freak Mar 2013 #28
Are you a freak about Liberal Jesus or simply liberal about your Jesus freakiness? Bucky Mar 2013 #46
I loooove that question... Liberal Jesus Freak Mar 2013 #50
It's certainly impolite pscot Mar 2013 #29
In 70s no (as self-identified movement, and subset of hippie/freak culture) PufPuf23 Mar 2013 #30
11 long-haired friends of Jesus in a chartreuse microbus OriginalGeek Mar 2013 #32
How I wish I could give a Rec to a reply slackmaster Mar 2013 #63
Nope. It's insulting. Iggo Mar 2013 #34
I don't think it is bigoted, Jamaal510 Mar 2013 #39
As a Christian, I wouldn't take any offense from being called a Jesus Freak, but we still shouldn't dawg Mar 2013 #41
It is a vey specific term, so if used properly it is just descriptive and if not it would be Bluenorthwest Mar 2013 #42
Exactly. I think the term gets misapplied a whole lot. Bucky Mar 2013 #47
It is still commonly used by people to identify themselves Bluenorthwest Mar 2013 #49
Marks you as being of a certain age HockeyMom Mar 2013 #51
the term is more descriptive than bigoted rustydog Mar 2013 #52
Sure, like for instance, I'm a cock freak. Kurovski Mar 2013 #54
The term is anchored firmly to the late 1960s and early 1970s. I can assure you it wasn't bigoted... slackmaster Mar 2013 #55
This is an interesting post. Old and In the Way Mar 2013 #58
I think the community directs an inappropriate level of attention to minutiae of meaning... slackmaster Mar 2013 #60
We used to call them bible thumpers Marrah_G Mar 2013 #59
How about Holy Rollers and Happy Clappys? slackmaster Mar 2013 #62
Not when it's used as a compliment... cherokeeprogressive Mar 2013 #61
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