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84. From February 2013
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 12:48 PM
Mar 2013
NBC News/Wall Street Journal Poll conducted by the polling organizations of Peter Hart (D) and Bill McInturff (R). Feb. 21-24, 2013. N=1,000 adults nationwide. Margin of error ± 3.1.


"When it comes to the conflict between the Israelis and the Palestinians, do you think that the United States should support the Israelis more than the Palestinians, support the Palestinians more than the Israelis, or should the U.S. treat both the same and not support one more than the other?"


Support Israelis more 31%

Support Palestinians more 4%

Treat both the same 55%

Unsure: 10%



http://www.jta.org/news/article/2012/11/16/3112036/senate-resolution-backs-israel-actions-in-gaza

WASHINGTON (JTA) -- Both houses of the U.S. Congress unanimously passed resolutions expressing support for Israel's "inherent right to act in self-defense."The identical non-binding resolutions passed Thursday in the Senate and Friday in the House of Representatives.

Initiated in the Senate by Sens. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.) and Mark Kirk (R-Ill.) and in the House by Reps. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (R-Fla.) and Howard Berman (D-Calif.), each resolution "expresses unwavering commitment to the security of the State of Israel as a Jewish and democratic state with secure borders, and recognizes and strongly supports its inherent right to act in self-defense to protect its citizens against acts of terrorism."

By Thursday evening, the Senate resolution had garnered 64 cosponsors.

The American Israel Public Affairs Committee in a statement praised "the leadership of Senators Gillibrand and Kirk, and the extraordinary show of support by the Senate for Israel’s struggle against terrorist attacks on its citizens."

The resolutions are the first such proposed legislation in the wake of Israeli airstrikes launched Wednesday in retaliation for rocket attacks from the Gaza Strip

Unlike statements of support for Israel's actions from the Obama administration, the resolutions do not call on both sides to exercise restraint or express regret at casualties on both sides.

"We strongly condemn the barrage of rocket fire from Gaza into Israel, and we regret the death and injury of innocent Israeli and Palestinian civilians caused by the ensuing violence," Jay Carney, the White House spokesman, told reporters on Thursday. "There is no justification for the violence that Hamas and other terrorist organizations are employing against the people of Israel. We call on those responsible to stop these cowardly acts immediately in order to allow the situation to de-escalate."



http://www.king.senate.gov/record.cfm?id=341087

WASHINGTON, D.C. – U.S. Senators Susan Collins and Angus King, along with a bipartisan group of 75 other senators
, today sent a letter to President Obama urging him to reaffirm his commitment to working closely with the new government of Israel and to oppose Palestinian efforts to either circumvent direct negotiations with Israel or delegitimize Israel.The Senators wrote:

“Palestinian efforts to bypass direct negotiations with Israel by taking unilateral steps for international recognition are, in our view, unacceptable. When you meet with Palestinian leaders, you should make clear that the pathway for peace is through unconditional direct negotiations between both the Israelis and Palestinians and that the United States vigorously opposes any Palestinian efforts to circumvent direct negotiations.”

The Senators also urge the President to identify and promote policy solutions, such as Iron Dome, that address the urgent and important security challenges facing both Israel and the United States. “We also hope that you will reiterate the United States’ support for Israel, her right to defend herself, and the Iron Dome project. In such a tumultuous region of the world, and during such challenging times, a strong relationship between our two countries has never been more important.”

In addition to Senators Collins and King, the letter was signed by Senators Cardin, Menendez, Corker, Boxer, Rubio, Casey, Flake, Shaheen, Barrasso, Coons, McConnell, Murphy, Chambliss, Schumer, Cornyn, Stabenow, Vitter, Cantwell, Kirk, Mikulski, Coats, Klobuchar, Blunt, Whitehouse, Moran, Mark Udall, Boozman, Hagan, Grassley, Landrieu, Lee, Bennet, Cruz, Gillibrand, Fischer, Manchin, Cochran, Wyden, Isakson, Blumenthal, Johanns, Tester, Burr, Heinrich, Crapo, Schatz, Hatch, Hirono, Roberts, Franken, Murkowski, Baucus, Scott, McCaskill, Wicker, Merkley, Heller, Begich, Portman, Donnelly, Thune, Pryor, Tim Johnson, Lautenberg, Sherrod Brown, Warner, Ayotte, Graham, Hoeven, Toomey, Sessions, Ron Johnson, Reed, Alexander and Paul.The full text of the letter is as follows:

Dear Mr. President:

We applaud your decision to travel to Israel so early in your second term as president. Your upcoming trip will offer you the opportunity to meet with the leaders of Israel’s new government and to reaffirm the unshakeable bond between our two nations. In your meetings in Jerusalem and Ramallah later this month, we hope that you will reaffirm your commitment to working closely with the new government of Israel.As you may know, in May 2011, the Senate passed S.Res.185: a resolution reaffirming the commitment of the United States to a negotiated two-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. The bipartisan resolution was cosponsored by 90 Senators. Palestinian efforts to bypass direct negotiations with Israel by taking unilateral steps for international recognition are, in our view, unacceptable. When you meet with Palestinian leaders, you should make clear that the pathway for peace is through unconditional direct negotiations between both the Israelis and Palestinians and that the United States vigorously opposes any Palestinian efforts to circumvent direct negotiations.

It is important to re-emphasize that the United States will not tolerate efforts to isolate or delegitimize Israel. During your first term, you and your administration actively stood by Israel at the UN and other agencies to try to block such efforts. It is critical that you now make clear that our relationship with Palestinians will be jeopardized by seeking action against Israel at the International Criminal Court.

We encourage you to also stress the importance of the Palestinian Authority’s close security cooperation with Israel. If peace is to be possible, the Palestinian Authority also needs to confront the recent surge in violence on the West Bank, cease all anti-Israel incitement and renounce Hamas until it unequivocally meets the three Quartet requirements.

We believe that by espousing these principles during your historic trip, you will reaffirm the United States’ commitment to enhancing Israeli security, improving the prospect for peace with the Palestinians and furthering our own interests in this troubled region of the world.

We are strongly committed to the restart of the peace process between Israel and the Palestinians. However, we also recognize that the violence and chaos that have sprung up in Syria, North Africa, Egypt, including insecurity along the Sinai Peninsula, and Yemen are not related to the peace process.

As you pursue peace in the Middle East in the long-run, we hope that your agenda will identify policy solutions to address the urgent and important threats facing Israel and the United States today. We also hope that you will reiterate the United States’ support for Israel, her right to defend herself, and the Iron Dome project. In such a tumultuous region of the world, and during such challenging times, a strong relationship between our two countries has never been more important. Israel has challenging times ahead. Israel needs our unwavering commitment now more than ever.

The US Congress is more unquestioning in support of what the Israeli government does than the Knesset is.

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I didn't think it was the money tree...eom Kolesar Mar 2013 #1
Wouldn't want something to put down roots where it might cause trouble later Orrex Mar 2013 #2
Too late. Rider3 Mar 2013 #3
And we all know what happens then... Glassunion Mar 2013 #4
It will eat your eyes out Rider3 Mar 2013 #20
uh, you know I'm just joking right? Rider3 Mar 2013 #21
careful... Maine-ah Mar 2013 #106
I have Chinese Wisteria and Japanese Knotweed in my yard. Jamastiene Mar 2013 #48
Hey, I'm in Florida - invasive plants abound! csziggy Mar 2013 #81
Nasty. Like they couldn't just check it on site? They flew it over on Air Force One for... Poll_Blind Mar 2013 #5
This petty stunt looks like something some podunk red state mayor would pull... Blue_Tires Mar 2013 #8
"...like something some podunk red state mayor would pull." Agreed. Poll_Blind Mar 2013 #12
Have you ever heard of sanitary laws? nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #22
No and they don't care leftynyc Mar 2013 #53
The story is BS oberliner Mar 2013 #26
Such agriculture laws are actually kind of important. Gravitycollapse Mar 2013 #47
That is true. Jamastiene Mar 2013 #49
It's probably not Kosher either, or something. RoccoR5955 Mar 2013 #6
Anti-semitic much? nt Bonobo Mar 2013 #31
No. RoccoR5955 Mar 2013 #33
Explain. Bonobo Mar 2013 #34
Actually, in my Jewish community JoDog Mar 2013 #60
Yeah, I'm Jewish too. I get that. Bonobo Mar 2013 #61
Actually, JoDog Mar 2013 #93
I know what kosher means. RoccoR5955 Mar 2013 #65
~facepalm~ Marrah_G Mar 2013 #7
lol! HappyMe Mar 2013 #13
It's one of those days......... Marrah_G Mar 2013 #14
Yes, it is. HappyMe Mar 2013 #15
Our friends the Israelis rarely miss an attempt to humiliate our President. geek tragedy Mar 2013 #9
Whoa. No anti-Semitism reeking here. aquart Mar 2013 #38
really? no "political choice"? Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #41
Our political class places Israel's well-being on a plane at the very least geek tragedy Mar 2013 #63
And an agricultural inspection is a finely tuned international insult? Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #69
You would have to ask them. geek tragedy Mar 2013 #72
Hmmm. Interesting theory. Where are these votes and this money coming from? Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #73
As I said, there's no political benefit to geek tragedy Mar 2013 #79
Seems to me there are an awful lot of people who support a 2 state solution and an independent Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #80
How many US political figures can you name who have geek tragedy Mar 2013 #82
you need to define your terms. And I think the general public understands the history. Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #83
From February 2013 geek tragedy Mar 2013 #84
Your poll right there implies that the US general public is more sympathetic to Israel. Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #94
No, it does not contradict. geek tragedy Mar 2013 #98
Which is why they should stop building settlements, and Hamas should recognize Israel Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #101
The idea that that US has not taken Israel's side in every geek tragedy Mar 2013 #103
The Fantasy is on the part of the Palestinian Leaders who have promised their people that Israel Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #104
I love it when Israel partisans drop the "of course the US is neutral" geek tragedy Mar 2013 #105
Did I say that? Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #109
Mistake? geek tragedy Mar 2013 #112
And of course, and invasive plant species being removed validates all this... LanternWaste Mar 2013 #107
It was faulty reporting. nt geek tragedy Mar 2013 #108
STILL believing this ridiculous story leftynyc Mar 2013 #74
Stop believing lies leftynyc Mar 2013 #51
It's ridiculous to claim that this was an example of an attempt to cali Mar 2013 #59
It is a constant attack on the President from a country that receives billions of $$$ Walk away Mar 2013 #114
Where is the attack on the President? MrBig Mar 2013 #115
Oh please. Netanyahu 2012, pre-election, anti Obama, "telling America.... Walk away Mar 2013 #116
Tell me again why our countries are such great friends? n/t BlueToTheBone Mar 2013 #10
ah, because it's a fucking tree. Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #42
lol. gotta love absurdly inane cali Mar 2013 #76
This message was self-deleted by its author cali Mar 2013 #77
US has to dig up and remove financial aid to isreal- it's regrettable but currency has to be checked leftyohiolib Mar 2013 #11
Now, there's an idea whose time has come! Reevaluate ALL foreign aid, ALL military installations of bike man Mar 2013 #19
Aw, can't even spell the name of the postage stamp you hate. aquart Mar 2013 #39
huh? leftyohiolib Mar 2013 #134
You try to bring a tree into the US nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #70
So the President just whipped out a tree, planted it, and nobody said a word? nyquil_man Mar 2013 #16
First bad story from press nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #71
That was exactly my point. The story makes no sense. nyquil_man Mar 2013 #135
How many more one-way 'friends' do we really need? Ikonoklast Mar 2013 #17
Try bringing a tree through US Customs nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #75
Sounds like a GOP move. Rex Mar 2013 #18
Sounds like a sanitary law nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #68
Please that is just stupid. Rex Mar 2013 #85
Since the US has never evah done that either nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #86
Yes someone just walked off AF1 without the script. Rex Mar 2013 #87
Again, try that BS faux outrage with somebody that cares. nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #88
No not outraged over a tree, you miss the point entirely on purpose I guess. Rex Mar 2013 #89
What was the point? They dug it out insult to the US, nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #90
Wow you are so off, but keep it up. Rex Mar 2013 #91
Antisemitism, even when veiled nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #95
Yes your personal attack against me was crap. Rex Mar 2013 #96
Read the Guardian nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #97
Wrong, you just assume that is what I meant because you lost an arguement. Rex Mar 2013 #99
Welcome to my ignore list nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #100
That is what I mean. Rex Mar 2013 #110
See you at our Iggy potluck dinner this weekend? zappaman Mar 2013 #117
LOL! Rex Mar 2013 #132
so what? *Taft BURNED a gift of dozens of cherry trees by *Japan because of disease and infestation bigtree Mar 2013 #23
But did TR have ProSense Mar 2013 #27
Great - more friggin birthers wanting to check its roots! edgineered Mar 2013 #32
I think those trees were actually from Japan, Art_from_Ark Mar 2013 #35
right, Japan and Taft . . . going from memory here . . . never a good idea bigtree Mar 2013 #62
During WWII Paul E Ester Mar 2013 #113
Fifteen years after the war, the Japanese cherry appeared on a US stamp Art_from_Ark Mar 2013 #130
nice factoid, pretty stamp...thanks! Paul E Ester Mar 2013 #131
Facepalm nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #24
Shhhh...don't harsh the high! Behind the Aegis Mar 2013 #37
Yep. aquart Mar 2013 #40
And all the talk of "They are taking our money..." Blech. Bonobo Mar 2013 #58
"OBAMA MURDERS TREES IN THE HOLY LAND!!" baldguy Mar 2013 #25
They'll probably give back our money too, yortsed snacilbuper Mar 2013 #28
LOL!!! proud2BlibKansan Mar 2013 #36
I smell the blood of a bureaucrat! immoderate Mar 2013 #29
Yes, I also wish the best to President Obama on his thrip. defacto7 Mar 2013 #30
"They’re digging up Obama’s tree? No, but it’s roots are in plastic netting, ahead of inspection" Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #43
Thank you. But then again, why waste an opportunity to vent Bonobo Mar 2013 #45
they're certainly taking it out on this tree, on purpose. Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #46
Sure doesn't take much around here leftynyc Mar 2013 #52
It reminds me of the movie, Borat... Bonobo Mar 2013 #54
I didn't see that movie leftynyc Mar 2013 #56
I honestly don't think it's anti-semitic rage cali Mar 2013 #55
Cali, anti-semitism is a deep, deep thing... Bonobo Mar 2013 #57
Ah yes, the old "criticism of Israel is bigotry against Jews" geek tragedy Mar 2013 #102
Yeah, but the thing is sometimes it is. Bonobo Mar 2013 #129
could that same tree backwoodsbob Mar 2013 #44
For the sake of their native species, Jamastiene Mar 2013 #50
Driving down a Northern Mississippi highway at night Aerows Mar 2013 #67
Mission accomplished! bluedigger Mar 2013 #64
Uh-huh...OK. Try bringing a tree into MineralMan Mar 2013 #66
Agree...I was harassed flying back and forth from the UK HipChick Mar 2013 #92
I don't know whether to laugh or cry MrBig Mar 2013 #78
To the OP nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #111
Are people really not understading the symbolic importance of this? LittleBlue Mar 2013 #118
Please read this nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #120
Let's hope they don't remove the tree LittleBlue Mar 2013 #122
Let's hope sanitary laws are followed nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #123
Yes, but they're waived when it sends a disastrous diplomatic message LittleBlue Mar 2013 #125
Well, you can chose to make this a Supreme Court case nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #126
I suspect someone had a word with Bibi LittleBlue Mar 2013 #127
Thanks for the other kick nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #128
Ya try explaining that to someone that can only shout and stick their Rex Mar 2013 #133
Probably wouldn't have survived anyway. Cleita Mar 2013 #119
The OP is wrong nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #121
Thanks for the correction. Cleita Mar 2013 #124
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