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chocolatewatchband

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18. There are ways to do this without locking kids in cages.

Fri Mar 22, 2013, 01:14 PM

Mar 2013

These CHILDREN (which is what a 14-year-old is!) have obviously had a life of neglect at best. No normal child decides to lock an elderly woman in a trunk and carjack people. This is psychotic behavior.

I have heard that some of these kids are the children of crack babies! So genetically there may be issues, as well. But they need psychiatric care.

I have heard that prisons these days are FULL of mentally ill people. That is just wrong.

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Lock these kids up for a long time: Woman, 89, carjacked, locked in trunk by teens for 2 days [View all] cali Mar 2013 OP

But are they good athletes? Fresh_Start Mar 2013 #1

Who knows. They are girls so they will probably get what they deserve. we can do it Mar 2013 #8

Some guys were involved too, I believe. NaturalHigh Mar 2013 #39

You are right, but only girls were mentioned in the OP. I'd had enough outrage already the past week we can do it Mar 2013 #85

Snark maybe, but a truthful observation. Smilo Mar 2013 #33

May be snark leftynyc Mar 2013 #51

Sports Smilo Mar 2013 #60

are there more crazy, violent events at the hands of teens, ChairmanAgnostic Mar 2013 #2

In either case Cirque du So-What Mar 2013 #5

More people, more crazy. Probably doesn't change the rate of crazy, however. nt valerief Mar 2013 #37

that's my guess, too. ChairmanAgnostic Mar 2013 #73

No, because they might shoot themselves and then they can't go to WAR for the .001%. nt valerief Mar 2013 #82

How nice to see someone as cynical as I. ChairmanAgnostic Mar 2013 #89

I'm sorry but I don't EVER remember Le Taz Hot Mar 2013 #75

It may have taken different forms and it may have had different causes, but it was still there. Heywood J Mar 2013 #80

Don't be absurd. Le Taz Hot Mar 2013 #84

I do think there's a difference. Heywood J Mar 2013 #86

Regarding teens and violence, there was a thread a couple of days ago suggesting the drinking bike man Mar 2013 #77

As if the law stops anyone from drinking, realistically. nomorenomore08 Mar 2013 #93

The discussion was lowering the legal drinking age to 18, which most certainly is NOT bike man Mar 2013 #95

Then in that case, why the hell should we let 18-year-olds join the military? nomorenomore08 Mar 2013 #96

There are two separate arguments/discussions here - legal age to purchase/consume alcohol, and bike man Mar 2013 #98

Throw away the key for at least 20 years. NaturalHigh Mar 2013 #3

But first... hamsterjill Mar 2013 #65

+ 1,000,000,000,000 love_katz Mar 2013 #69

You certainly have my vote on that. NaturalHigh Mar 2013 #91

Sounds good to me davidpdx Mar 2013 #101

But mainly... sendero Mar 2013 #90

Some evil does seem to be genetic. NaturalHigh Mar 2013 #92

Sounds like attempted murder, if you ask me. Most 89 year olds would have died in that trunk. nt onehandle Mar 2013 #4

And bringing her to a cemetary Politicalboi Mar 2013 #55

I agree. AndyA Mar 2013 #68

They didn't get that way in a vacuum zipplewrath Mar 2013 #6

I'd say 40 years in prison with no parole should about do it. Dreamer Tatum Mar 2013 #7

Why not just execute them? Fucking bleeding hearts... Comrade Grumpy Mar 2013 #9

Let's toss you in a trunk for two days and see how much your heart bleeds Dreamer Tatum Mar 2013 #11

I would be quite displeased with them and would want them to pay for their crimes. Comrade Grumpy Mar 2013 #15

Sorry Grump, decades in prison are what they deserve CanonRay Mar 2013 #27

Decades, at *least*. Life w/o parole sounds better. Peter cotton Mar 2013 #38

Yeah, the little rapscallions. Little scamps should go to bed without dessert. Dreamer Tatum Mar 2013 #43

i think 40 years in prison is reasonable, this wasn't stealing candy from a store, it was a violent JI7 Mar 2013 #74

Yep. Puglover Mar 2013 #103

how callous renate Mar 2013 #10

Why do we have juvenile courts? Comrade Grumpy Mar 2013 #17

So "locking them up" will solve the pathology chocolatewatchband Mar 2013 #12

Locking them up isn't intended to resolve their psychological issues. geek tragedy Mar 2013 #13

There are ways to do this without locking kids in cages. chocolatewatchband Mar 2013 #18

Because a lot of them self-medicate. Neoma Mar 2013 #20

Would you want them living next door to you? nt geek tragedy Mar 2013 #24

Not everyone who commits a crime is mentally ill gollygee Mar 2013 #25

I agree with you about one thing: chocolatewatchband Mar 2013 #28

People sometimes simply choose to be violent because they get something out of it gollygee Mar 2013 #32

I don't argue with being locked up but not necessarily jail. chocolatewatchband Mar 2013 #34

This has nothing to do with how I choose to discipline my children gollygee Mar 2013 #35

its intriguing to me that all these violent kids get the but they are young defense roguevalley Mar 2013 #47

These kids are, sadly, spoiled. And btw, that is not my philosophy of child rearing cali Mar 2013 #48

No one is arguing that these kids are not dangerous! The question is how will chocolatewatchband Mar 2013 #50

How can you even think of NOT locking them up? Jaysus. cali Mar 2013 #52

I never said not to lock them up! We should have THERAPEUTIC settings chocolatewatchband Mar 2013 #54

ack. You said: cali Mar 2013 #62

First off, I asked why locking them up protects the public and helps them chocolatewatchband Mar 2013 #63

How the hell do YOU know they won't get much time? Clue, hon: You don't cali Mar 2013 #64

While most kids that act like this probably come from bad home environments, lark Mar 2013 #29

I don't believe in "bad seeds" chocolatewatchband Mar 2013 #46

Welcome to DU! I am mostly in agreement. immoderate Mar 2013 #57

Sorry, not having a daddy is no excuse for rape! lark Mar 2013 #88

Psychopaths happen at any age get the red out Mar 2013 #30

Where do you get this from? chocolatewatchband Mar 2013 #61

And this shooting isn't a sign? get the red out Mar 2013 #78

14 years is old enough to know it's not a nice thing to lock up people in the trunk of a car JI7 Mar 2013 #76

no, locking them up will keep them from committing other crimes. cali Mar 2013 #14

So all parents of troubled children are "abject failures"? In some cases probably, but that's NRaleighLiberal Mar 2013 #16

I thank Dog Cirque du So-What Mar 2013 #21

+ 1000000 NRaleighLiberal Mar 2013 #23

What about the title of this thread? chocolatewatchband Mar 2013 #40

No, not at all Cirque du So-What Mar 2013 #49

No. chocolatewatchband Mar 2013 #70

wow. such ignorance in that response. NRaleighLiberal Mar 2013 #71

I'll tell my friend that. Heywood J Mar 2013 #81

Message auto-removed chocolatewatchband Mar 2013 #87

If things were only as simple as you suggest Cirque du So-What Mar 2013 #19

Well you are correct that qazplm Mar 2013 #79

Cali, what is the point of posting this local crime story in General Discussion? Comrade Grumpy Mar 2013 #22

Local crime stories are posted just about daily here in GD cali Mar 2013 #26

I am amazed she survived too get the red out Mar 2013 #31

They are terrible kids. nt Dreamer Tatum Mar 2013 #45

Well, it had to happen SOMEwhere, didn't it? Cirque du So-What Mar 2013 #53

There are no heroes in this story, other than the police who are just doing their job slackmaster Mar 2013 #36

I don't know that I'd call the 89 year old a hero but she sure is gutsy and kind hearted. cali Mar 2013 #41

I'd call her a gracious victim slackmaster Mar 2013 #44

These kids Crepuscular Mar 2013 #42

Running in a pack was my first thought about... Little Star Mar 2013 #58

First thing...they need to... ReRe Mar 2013 #56

And the sick mf'ers can get guns whenever they want...no questions asked. judesedit Mar 2013 #59

IMO this was not the first time these "children" committed a crime Gin Mar 2013 #66

what? they dumped her and she crawled around until someone found her. HiPointDem Mar 2013 #99

how so? HiPointDem Mar 2013 #100

Disgusting. One thing, ChazII Mar 2013 #67

Remarkable that she lived through the confinement. lpbk2713 Mar 2013 #72

I'm trying to process the idea of doing this to anyone let alone malaise Mar 2013 #83

There is no mention of it at the link but I wonder if these teens were up-to-date on their vaccines. leeroysphitz Mar 2013 #94

Congratulations, you little shit snowflakes! flvegan Mar 2013 #97

I am glad to hear the woman survived davidpdx Mar 2013 #102