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Kids shoot and kill baby in stroller because mom didn't have money to give them. [View all]

Georgia Police Hunt Killers of Baby in Stroller

Georgia police are going door-to-door in search of two young suspects who are accused of shooting and killing a 1-year-old boy as his mother pushed him in a stroller.

Sherry West, the mother of the child, told police she was walking her 13-month-old son, Antonio, in a stroller Thursday morning through their Brunswick, Ga., neighborhood when two African-American boys approached her and demanded money. When she told them she didn't have any money, West said one of the boys pulled out a handgun.

"He said, 'I'm going to kill you if you don't give me money,' and I said, 'I swear I don't have any,"' West told WAWS-TV in Jacksonville, Fla.

West said she tried to shield her child with her arms, but the gunman shoved her and shot the baby in the head. West was shot in the leg.

http://news.yahoo.com/georgia-police-hunt-killers-baby-184607088.html

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Kids shoot and kill baby in stroller because mom didn't have money to give them. [View all] Skip Intro Mar 2013 OP

I don't understand why she didn't just give up her purse. Mika Mar 2013 #1

Wow. One post and it is the victims fault. joeglow3 Mar 2013 #2

Police are not ruling anything or anyone out cali Mar 2013 #3

check your nose, because they arrested the boys. bettyellen Mar 2013 #83

based on what? demwing Mar 2013 #85

This message was self-deleted by its author CreekDog Mar 2013 #120

What doesn't smell right? Life Long Dem Mar 2013 #187

I agree with you Cali. FarPoint Mar 2013 #205

Do you often put words in other people mouths/posts? Mika Mar 2013 #4

She has every right to say "hey you piece of fucking shit, this is my purse. joeglow3 Mar 2013 #7

sure, but honestly what sane person would put themselves and their baby at risk cali Mar 2013 #14

Honestly, it is impossible that she actually had no money to give joeglow3 Mar 2013 #26

This message was self-deleted by its author CreekDog Mar 2013 #39

Well, the police apparently buy it. There have already been arrests. pnwmom Mar 2013 #59

This message was self-deleted by its author CreekDog Mar 2013 #96

Oh FFS. Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #97

It never fails to amaze me how some people are so quick think the worst about people Downtown Hound Mar 2013 #105

Who gives a ---- marions ghost Mar 2013 #108

What makes you think that the poster is in any way, shape, or form, related to a "gun culture"? AnotherMcIntosh Mar 2013 #178

Gun Culture means that people marions ghost Mar 2013 #182

This message was self-deleted by its author marions ghost Mar 2013 #180

She pretty much did that. And look where it got them. Mika Mar 2013 #16

And women should not wear "slutty" clothes joeglow3 Mar 2013 #22

Step back. Take a breath. Mika Mar 2013 #27

At a minimum, your response is odd joeglow3 Mar 2013 #30

No pontificating on my part. Just asking why she valued her purse more than her baby. Mika Mar 2013 #36

Did she have a purse? leftynyc Mar 2013 #42

Yes. Here ... Mika Mar 2013 #44

Maybe it was just a reflex to pull away Rex Mar 2013 #50

There are probably other things in that purse besides any money she might have had slackmaster Mar 2013 #53

Even after they threatened to shoot your baby if you didn't hand it over? Mika Mar 2013 #58

I have been trained to fight back in that situation, if escape is not possible slackmaster Mar 2013 #60

Oh Lawd! alcibiades_mystery Mar 2013 #87

Go gitt'im Tiger! Downtown Hound Mar 2013 #106

Unless you have been in that situation yourself Aerows Mar 2013 #159

My martial arts instructor told our class. ... spin Mar 2013 #157

Um... bitchkitty Mar 2013 #163

"The eyes are the mirror of the soul" is a Yiddish proverb. (n/t) spin Mar 2013 #172

Yea, let me know how that works out bitchkitty Mar 2013 #186

Since my situational awareness has never failed me ... spin Mar 2013 #203

MAYBE marions ghost Mar 2013 #109

Maybe because she's a human who never imagined someone could kill a baby? pnwmom Mar 2013 #51

They threatened to shoot the baby if she didn't hand over the purse. Mika Mar 2013 #55

Why should anyone believe a word they say? slackmaster Mar 2013 #62

Well, they did do what they said they'd do if she didn't hand it over. Mika Mar 2013 #63

Very good point. Rex Mar 2013 #65

I think I know why some people had the strange knee-jerk reaction, and it isn't pretty. slackmaster Mar 2013 #67

The police have already arrested teens fitting the description, so apparently they believe her. n/t pnwmom Mar 2013 #71

Exactly, google "never trust your assailant." nt raccoon Mar 2013 #102

You can't be seriously arguing that she's culpable. So what is your point? pnwmom Mar 2013 #64

I AM NOT making any such argument. Mika Mar 2013 #66

Shock. Rex Mar 2013 #68

Yes. Exactly. nt pnwmom Mar 2013 #70

Maybe because her body was surging with stress hormones so her brain wasn't functioning pnwmom Mar 2013 #69

This message was self-deleted by its author Mz Pip Mar 2013 #78

+++++duh marions ghost Mar 2013 #110

By asking the question, you make the statement riqster Mar 2013 #76

Knee jerk all you want, but, I'm not. Mika Mar 2013 #77

How is saying the 'mother is in shock' from having her life threatened Rex Mar 2013 #80

Wrong. I'm saying that you accusing me of blaming the mother is knee jerking. Mika Mar 2013 #88

Point out where I accused you of blaming the mother. Rex Mar 2013 #90

Sorry, Rex. I should have referred to riqster in post #88, and not you. Mika Mar 2013 #92

NP Mika...these sub-threads are getting tedious Rex Mar 2013 #94

I'm not blaming her in the slightest. I'm trying to explain to you why her reaction pnwmom Mar 2013 #98

"I'm just askin'" is a tired, pathetic cliche muriel_volestrangler Mar 2013 #119

It's always so easy to critique and second guess Downtown Hound Mar 2013 #104

Absolutely marions ghost Mar 2013 #112

+1 Rex Mar 2013 #173

My sis in law marions ghost Mar 2013 #176

Running around with the wrong crowd at 15 Rex Mar 2013 #195

I had it happen, large handgun at point blank also marions ghost Mar 2013 #199

The cops were waiting for us. Rex Mar 2013 #206

This message was self-deleted by its author marions ghost Mar 2013 #175

Its very possible.. sendero Mar 2013 #127

Nobody outside this situation has HappyMe Mar 2013 #161

Post removed Post removed Mar 2013 #144

Honestly, you should be ashamed theHandpuppet Mar 2013 #155

I read the ops link and there is no mention of a purse. rainy Mar 2013 #142

I posted the link in this thread several times. n/t Mika Mar 2013 #143

She probably couldn't think what to do. She was accosted and threatened with a gun... Honeycombe8 Mar 2013 #197

Criminals don't recognize your rights. That's why they're called criminals. nt Honeycombe8 Mar 2013 #111

Well, we know that guns don't kill people. pnwmom Mar 2013 #49

And not wearing slutty dresses can stop u from being raped joeglow3 Mar 2013 #103

Maybe they would've shot the baby anyway... love_katz Mar 2013 #6

maybe you should wait to see if the mother's account holds up cali Mar 2013 #11

This message was self-deleted by its author CreekDog Mar 2013 #21

I'm not blaming the mother. I'm saying her account of it doesn't cali Mar 2013 #24

This message was self-deleted by its author CreekDog Mar 2013 #31

Well, it does ring true. RebelOne Mar 2013 #81

Thank you, CreekDog. love_katz Mar 2013 #54

Are you embarrassed yet? They have arrested two boys MineralMan Mar 2013 #52

Maybe you should wait to see the evidence that law enforcement has on the guys Honeycombe8 Mar 2013 #198

What purse? slackmaster Mar 2013 #12

I heard her say it in an earlier vid on TV. Here ... Mika Mar 2013 #28

where does it say she even had a purse? Beaverhausen Mar 2013 #47

Who said she didn't? Who said she even had a purse? pnwmom Mar 2013 #48

I posted the link several times, yet you ignore it. Mika Mar 2013 #183

Oh my god. liberalmuse Mar 2013 #56

Where did I blame? Fer christs sake, i asked why she didn't just hand the purse over. n/t Mika Mar 2013 #61

keep digging. you're burying yourself dionysus Mar 2013 #158

what purse? demwing Mar 2013 #82

Read thru the thread. I've posted the link here 2 times. eom Mika Mar 2013 #84

thanks /nt demwing Mar 2013 #113

When I go for walks in my neighborhood - which is almost every day - I never, ever carry my purse. patricia92243 Mar 2013 #107

Again ... Mika Mar 2013 #184

I'm sure a lot of people wondered that. I'm guessing she couldn't think fast enuf what to do. Honeycombe8 Mar 2013 #114

It wasn't theirs. Deep13 Mar 2013 #131

I don't understand why they executed a baby. joshcryer Mar 2013 #150

Message auto-removed chocolatewatchband Mar 2013 #174

Gun nuts shrug and return to their gun porn. nt onehandle Mar 2013 #5

Dehumanizing people is what lead to this atrocity. Try not to contribute. Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2013 #33

"Gun nuts" think she should have a right to shoot back. Deep13 Mar 2013 #132

This message was self-deleted by its author onehandle Mar 2013 #8

This would be shocking in another country Cali_Democrat Mar 2013 #9

It's shocking here slackmaster Mar 2013 #15

No....gun violence is not shocking in America. Cali_Democrat Mar 2013 #19

If it wasn't shocking then why the outcry? NutmegYankee Mar 2013 #25

I suppose people have different reactions. Cali_Democrat Mar 2013 #43

That's bullcrap. slackmaster Mar 2013 #32

Is it a gun problem, or a bad parenting problem? Skip Intro Mar 2013 #38

There may be some truth to this. AverageJoe90 Mar 2013 #41

"If the woman in this story had had a gun, her baby might still be alive" Cali_Democrat Mar 2013 #45

Maybe a GOP talking point, but I sure haven't seen anyone post that on DU slackmaster Mar 2013 #57

Wow, great answer. Skip Intro Mar 2013 #95

This message was self-deleted by its author Cali_Democrat Mar 2013 #149

Why does it have to be either or? wryter2000 Mar 2013 #75

Duh duh duh --Bad parenting and bad society marions ghost Mar 2013 #118

Right marions ghost Mar 2013 #116

Yes, it's shocking here for someone to shoot a baby in the face. nt Honeycombe8 Mar 2013 #115

Most people will forget about it tomorrow marions ghost Mar 2013 #122

Well, I'm shocked. So it's shocking. That is different from what to do about it. Honeycombe8 Mar 2013 #125

Not shocked enough to really care marions ghost Mar 2013 #128

Back to culture war again, eh? Can't let one opportunity to cast moral aspersion pass? Eleanors38 Mar 2013 #153

You're damn right I blame... marions ghost Mar 2013 #160

I blame the half-hearted manner in which our 49-year War On Poverty has been conducted slackmaster Mar 2013 #164

Yeah I agree but marions ghost Mar 2013 #165

Anyone could buy a rifle, shotgun, or handgun by mail-order with no questions asked in 1964. slackmaster Mar 2013 #166

We are an anomaly among civilized nations marions ghost Mar 2013 #168

I'd like to see the root problems of violent crime addressed. slackmaster Mar 2013 #169

Yep marions ghost Mar 2013 #170

Heard it live, which confirms what I said: Culture war... Eleanors38 Mar 2013 #167

The fact that someone else thinks there's a solution different from yours makes Honeycombe8 Mar 2013 #193

did they have the 2nd press conference with updates yet ? based on CNN JI7 Mar 2013 #10

Well...I'll wait and see what comes out before deciding what I think. TwilightGardener Mar 2013 #13

I am in the corner with you. Something doesn't seem right about this situation. I may bluestate10 Mar 2013 #141

This one doesn't pass the smell test kudzu22 Mar 2013 #17

I know what you mean, but in this case, they've arrested the guys, and I saw her on tv.... Honeycombe8 Mar 2013 #117

Yes, I'm very glad I was wrong kudzu22 Mar 2013 #171

As I did yesterday, I'll just wait and see what develops here MineralMan Mar 2013 #18

According to her. I'm not 100% convinced. Quantess Mar 2013 #20

CNN reporting that police have arrested two youths in this case. BlueCheese Mar 2013 #23

A $10,000 bounty. Mika Mar 2013 #34

Sorry-- what does that mean? BlueCheese Mar 2013 #37

The person who gave the tip will get $10k if the tip leads to arrest & conviction.nt Honeycombe8 Mar 2013 #192

17 and 14. nt Skip Intro Mar 2013 #35

Exactly as I guessed. Get the records of which sterling youth weren't in schools. alphafemale Mar 2013 #72

This... doesn't smell right. Marr Mar 2013 #29

Jesus nt. lefty_mcduff Mar 2013 #40

Not sure what does not smell right about this timdog44 Mar 2013 #46

There are NO extenuating circumstances here! marions ghost Mar 2013 #126

Absoultely timdog44 Mar 2013 #129

I haven't been in the multiple threads marions ghost Mar 2013 #134

It is just as ugly timdog44 Mar 2013 #135

That is my Number One question also-- marions ghost Mar 2013 #137

What exactly does NOT SMELL RIGHT? Why question the victim's story? How fucked up can you get? KittyWampus Mar 2013 #73

Susan Smith.. HipChick Mar 2013 #89

The cynics should realize that the police have already arrested two teens. pnwmom Mar 2013 #99

So I wonder why the Police are still saying they are investigating all aspects of the story HipChick Mar 2013 #101

Diane Downs and Charles Stuart, too REP Mar 2013 #138

Thank you for mentioning those cases. nt raccoon Mar 2013 #162

Also, the victim's other son was killed as he was trying to kill someone REP Mar 2013 #204

Notice how they make sure to mention the race of the murdering pricks first? REP Mar 2013 #74

I think public safety is served by releasing as much descriptive information as possible... slackmaster Mar 2013 #79

As I mentioned, when giving the BOLO info, age/race/sex makes sense; in that para, it didn't. REP Mar 2013 #136

On our local Atlanta WSBTV report of the arrest RebelOne Mar 2013 #86

It doesn't matter now. I mattered a lot before they were arrested. slackmaster Mar 2013 #91

Maybe it was a hate crime. Zax2me Mar 2013 #147

Does not compute. Sorry. Catherina Mar 2013 #93

what does not compute ? they arrested 2 in this case JI7 Mar 2013 #100

One thing: public street, plain view, several people heard the shots. If this were fake, Honeycombe8 Mar 2013 #123

The police would have done a GSR test on the mother's hands, first thing. Ikonoklast Mar 2013 #130

Do you have a link, please. I would like to read all the article "not the mother's first loss of a patricia92243 Mar 2013 #133

She lost an older son to a knife attack. Here is a good link with fuller story: NYC_SKP Mar 2013 #145

Her son was the armed mugger. The victim got the better of him & killed him.nt Honeycombe8 Mar 2013 #194

I edited the post to add it Catherina Mar 2013 #146

I have been on every thread I can find on this. timdog44 Mar 2013 #121

+1 It's shocking even for DU. nt Union Scribe Mar 2013 #151

Evil people do harm. Sometimes they can't be stopped. They have the element of surprise, Honeycombe8 Mar 2013 #202

Every thing is fine in our inner-city.... lib2DaBone Mar 2013 #124

Robert Thompson and Jon Venables were 10 when they murdered a 2 year old in Liverpool, UK REP Mar 2013 #139

Wow. This is Israel's fault? Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #201

My take on this: America is going insane. Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #140

Stone. Cold. Gone. Zax2me Mar 2013 #148

Things are different.... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #152

I don't know what happened here, but in the 80's, I was visiting my sister at Christmastime... MiddleFingerMom Mar 2013 #154

and nothing is going Niceguy1 Mar 2013 #156

I can't believe the people here that are blaming the mother. appleannie1 Mar 2013 #177

Maybe, for some, it's easier than believing America's youth are really this lost. Barack_America Mar 2013 #179

With the love of guns and lack of humanity there is now in this country this horrorific appleannie1 Mar 2013 #181

...and your suggestions are... Keefer Mar 2013 #191

I don't think the majority of America's youth would murder a baby like this octothorpe Mar 2013 #208

A few people made a knee-jerk association with the Susan Smith case slackmaster Mar 2013 #185

The Charles Stuart Case.. HipChick Mar 2013 #188

I noted the differences between the two cases. nt Honeycombe8 Mar 2013 #200

This message was self-deleted by its author Honeycombe8 Mar 2013 #196

I'd want the lying family members prosecuted as well. Zax2me Mar 2013 #189

Mugshot of 17 year old suspect released madville Mar 2013 #190

I saw the mother being interviewed. She said she wouldn't mind if the kids died for this applegrove Mar 2013 #207