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In reply to the discussion: Lawrence O'Donnell's anti Clinton propoganda last night [View all]dsc
(53,402 posts)93. Here is you quoting the Weekly Standard to attack Dean
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=183491&mesg_id=183559
It's Dean and Lieberman based on their records.
The CATO Institute promotes deregulation for industries and corporations.
The Appeal of Howard Dean
From the September 15, 2003 issue: Why he could be Bush's more dangerous opponent.
by Stephen Moore
09/15/2003, Volume 009, Issue 01
SEVERAL YEARS AGO an obscure Democratic governor from the politically inconsequential state of Vermont was the guest speaker at a Cato Institute lunch. His name was Howard Dean. He had been awarded one of the highest grades among all Democrats (and a better grade than at least half of the Republicans) in the annual Cato Fiscal Report Card on the Governors. We were curious about his views because we had heard that he harbored political ambitions beyond the governorship.
Dean charmed nearly everyone in the boardroom. He came across as erudite, policy savvy, and, believe it or not, a friend of free markets--at least by the standards of the Tom Daschle-Dick Gephardt axis of the Democratic party. Even when challenged on issues like environmentalism, where he favored a large centralized mass of intrusive regulations, Dean remained affable.
"You folks at Cato," he told us, "should really like my views because I'm economically conservative and socially laissez-faire." Then he continued: "Believe me, I'm no big-government liberal. I believe in balanced budgets, markets, and deregulation. Look at my record in Vermont." He was scathing in his indictment of the "hyper-enthusiasm for taxes" among Democrats in Washington.
He left--and I will never forget the nearly hypnotic reaction. The charismatic doctor had made believers of several hardened cynics. Nearly everyone agreed that we had finally found a Democrat we could work with. Since then, I've watched Dean's career with more than a little interest and we chat from time to time on the phone.
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http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/0...
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Here you are doing exactly what I said you did. BTW the article was rife with outright lies. The voucher program was a particular favorite lie of mine. The voucher program in Vermont, which they said was started by Dean, is generations old. It also exists for a very unique class of students, those who have no public schools because their towns are so small. The wind up going to New Hampshire public schools for the most part. And yes, I told you that in real time, and you still pretended the article was a bastion of truth.
It's Dean and Lieberman based on their records.
The CATO Institute promotes deregulation for industries and corporations.
The Appeal of Howard Dean
From the September 15, 2003 issue: Why he could be Bush's more dangerous opponent.
by Stephen Moore
09/15/2003, Volume 009, Issue 01
SEVERAL YEARS AGO an obscure Democratic governor from the politically inconsequential state of Vermont was the guest speaker at a Cato Institute lunch. His name was Howard Dean. He had been awarded one of the highest grades among all Democrats (and a better grade than at least half of the Republicans) in the annual Cato Fiscal Report Card on the Governors. We were curious about his views because we had heard that he harbored political ambitions beyond the governorship.
Dean charmed nearly everyone in the boardroom. He came across as erudite, policy savvy, and, believe it or not, a friend of free markets--at least by the standards of the Tom Daschle-Dick Gephardt axis of the Democratic party. Even when challenged on issues like environmentalism, where he favored a large centralized mass of intrusive regulations, Dean remained affable.
"You folks at Cato," he told us, "should really like my views because I'm economically conservative and socially laissez-faire." Then he continued: "Believe me, I'm no big-government liberal. I believe in balanced budgets, markets, and deregulation. Look at my record in Vermont." He was scathing in his indictment of the "hyper-enthusiasm for taxes" among Democrats in Washington.
He left--and I will never forget the nearly hypnotic reaction. The charismatic doctor had made believers of several hardened cynics. Nearly everyone agreed that we had finally found a Democrat we could work with. Since then, I've watched Dean's career with more than a little interest and we chat from time to time on the phone.
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http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/0...
end of quote (this is the entire post btw)
Here you are doing exactly what I said you did. BTW the article was rife with outright lies. The voucher program was a particular favorite lie of mine. The voucher program in Vermont, which they said was started by Dean, is generations old. It also exists for a very unique class of students, those who have no public schools because their towns are so small. The wind up going to New Hampshire public schools for the most part. And yes, I told you that in real time, and you still pretended the article was a bastion of truth.
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Well BLM, if anyone can explain the Clintons to DU, it's you. Good Luck with that though
KittyWampus
Mar 2013
#14
She still is a warhawk. If it were up to her we'd be at war with Iran right now IMO. n/t
L0oniX
Mar 2013
#108
The Clintons deserve all the criticism they've received on this anniversary.
Moses2SandyKoufax
Mar 2013
#2
He knows how cozy the Clintons have been w/ the Bush family & how they allowed the Dem. party to
KittyWampus
Mar 2013
#7
Somewhat, but, we'd be 10trillion times better off if Bush's tax and economic policies had NOT
blm
Mar 2013
#33
Actually they do get ongoing CIA briefings. It's part of the perks of ex-presidenting
Bucky
Mar 2013
#31
Baloney - Bill Clinton had access as president to classified intel that senators never had
blm
Mar 2013
#34
I agree that Blair and Dem lawmakers SHOULD NOT have trusted Bill Clinton on Iraq, dsc.
blm
Mar 2013
#37
Bill used his power to support war and Bush's decision to go to war. He knew exactly
blm
Mar 2013
#114
And now the "clenis" and Bushes are best friends! They call Bill their son!!!
Liberal_Stalwart71
Mar 2013
#137
Propaganda? As in you're claiming she DIDN'T make those comments or vote for the war?
Poll_Blind
Mar 2013
#15
Sometimes having a successful political career means voting against your conscience.
Generation_Why
Mar 2013
#19
O'Donnell isn't running a propaganda campaign against Hillary. He ran the truth and
blm
Mar 2013
#36
Troops stuck in Iraq ring a bell? HeyJohn website that received instant attention from Politico?
blm
Mar 2013
#47
How uninformed would one have to be to think the only Dem supporting Iraq war was Hillary?
blm
Mar 2013
#66
That example is absurd. No one is STUPID enough to believe that O'Donnell was trying
blm
Mar 2013
#69
You're right, Hillary and Lieberman were on the exact same page - he could've used Joe
blm
Mar 2013
#80
It's not a RW attack piece on Dean - It's RW CATO support for Dean's centrism. You said I repeated
blm
Mar 2013
#96
Get a life, dsc - you chose excerpts that I did not, moving the goalposts as you always do.
blm
Mar 2013
#112
You missed the point entirely - Moore wrote about Dean glowingly years before primary.
blm
Mar 2013
#120
Big deal, dsc - I posted Moore's earlier thoughts on Dean, you didn't like it so you post
blm
Mar 2013
#125
Troops stuck in Iraq ring a bell? HeyJohn website that received instant attention from Politico?
blm
Mar 2013
#48
sniff...sniff...sniff...The meany O'Donnell didn't give Hillary's bullshit a pass
TheKentuckian
Mar 2013
#53
They did the first part - and more - using cherry picked sentences out of context - in 2005.
karynnj
Mar 2013
#140
I saw that segment, and came away with a completely different impression. The wonders of modern....
Tarheel_Dem
Mar 2013
#59
Come on, the Clintons created the DLC. They have always been Republican-Lite.
Zen Democrat
Mar 2013
#73
Yes, I'll vote a Repub/lite over a crazy conservative too, but we should have better choices. n/t
whathehell
Mar 2013
#79
I know - this rewriting of Clinton's time in the senate and at State is just amazing to me.
blm
Mar 2013
#97
I think some Irish men freak over matriarchs, because they grew up in the Irish-American matriarchy.
McCamy Taylor
Mar 2013
#142