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bossy22

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10. so someone who is against a measure that is mostly symbolic

Fri Mar 22, 2013, 04:52 PM

Mar 2013

is a gun freak? Lets just think logically for a second- is banning a weapon that is used in less than 5% of homicides really going to significantly affect gun violence? You have to assume to believe that mass shooters like Lanza can only pull off their deadly plans using assault weapons- which has been anecdotally disproven by the likes of the binghamton shooter and the VT shooter.

Why not put the effort into more effective measures such as background checks and limits on the number of firearms people can buy at one time?

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Did the Assault Weapons Ban kill gun control? [View all] bossy22 Mar 2013 OP

The AWB is not dead. It will be voted on separately. Tx4obama Mar 2013 #1

you miss the point of the article bossy22 Mar 2013 #3

I did the same... Melon_Lord Mar 2013 #44

Can't get more than 40 senators, never mind 60, never mind the house. X_Digger Mar 2013 #65

It will be resuscitated after the next assault weapon massacre. sadbear Mar 2013 #2

as usual bossy22 Mar 2013 #4

The more I hear from gun freaks... 99Forever Mar 2013 #6

so someone who is against a measure that is mostly symbolic bossy22 Mar 2013 #10

Save it for... 99Forever Mar 2013 #13

i don't care if it sounds hollow if its the truth bossy22 Mar 2013 #15

That's right bud. 99Forever Mar 2013 #22

and that's alright by you? bossy22 Mar 2013 #26

Strawman much? 99Forever Mar 2013 #28

how is being so stubborn in your convictions bossy22 Mar 2013 #36

I don't answer bullshit questions. 99Forever Mar 2013 #37

its not bullshit bossy22 Mar 2013 #40

Another one bites the dust. 99Forever Mar 2013 #42

"You don't need an assault weapon to carry out a massacre." Aristus Mar 2013 #25

but the AWB allows much more than flint locks bossy22 Mar 2013 #27

I don't give a shit about pistol grips, for fuck's sake! Aristus Mar 2013 #31

THAT'S ALL THE BILL DOES! bossy22 Mar 2013 #38

The bill says nothing about speed of firing or of reloading. It's literally about things like... slackmaster Mar 2013 #47

None of which are addressed by an "assault weapon" ban. X_Digger Mar 2013 #61

Nice (absolute non-)rebuttal. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2013 #33

You think I'm concerned... 99Forever Mar 2013 #34

I thought you were concerned about gun violence? bossy22 Mar 2013 #39

Probably not... Lizzie Poppet Mar 2013 #50

Should have left it at "Probably not..." 99Forever Mar 2013 #54

Good call. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2013 #57

Ahhh... 99Forever Mar 2013 #59

Save your logic for someone who isn't emotional and scared? Melon_Lord Mar 2013 #45

Welcome to DU. 99Forever Mar 2013 #46

Lovely what? Kingofalldems Mar 2013 #63

Brace Yourself For A Lot Of Those "Symbolic Measures," Then. Paladin Mar 2013 #7

Yup - while gun fucks will keep expressing their emotion by buying more jmg257 Mar 2013 #9

don't you think that attitude might be part of the problem with the debate bossy22 Mar 2013 #12

MY attitude, you mean? I could give a shit about 'the gun culture'. jmg257 Mar 2013 #16

"gun culture" and "gun violence" are not the same culture to many bossy22 Mar 2013 #21

That's wonderful. But the problem here is your reading comprehension. jmg257 Mar 2013 #30

apologies bossy22 Mar 2013 #41

You must hate children... Melon_Lord Mar 2013 #48

Who knows, COULD be he doesn't have any of his own, or hasn't known one or seen one jmg257 Mar 2013 #56

Agreed. Nor did I say that either. Sorry if I gave that impression. nt jmg257 Mar 2013 #53

I agree. If it doesn't pass this time then the next time... Tx4obama Mar 2013 #5

The bill has been written and re-written almost every year since 2004. Clames Mar 2013 #43

And every time it gets proposed, more folks buy them.. X_Digger Mar 2013 #68

I think annual AR rifle production in the few years before 1994 was less than 70k. Clames Mar 2013 #71

At least 970k in 2012, per the NSSF. n/t X_Digger Mar 2013 #72

Newtown was not an assault weapon massacre krispos42 Mar 2013 #67

Not really. Colorado just signed new laws into effect. jmg257 Mar 2013 #8

are you so sure of that? bossy22 Mar 2013 #11

Yes - 100%. Reality is that another massacre or 2 will continue to change things. jmg257 Mar 2013 #14

i looked above, there isn't anything. bossy22 Mar 2013 #18

You keep saying "dipping" and 'WON'T be on people's minds'. I agree. Right up until jmg257 Mar 2013 #24

it has lasted longer bossy22 Mar 2013 #35

'Till the next massacre". Then it WILL start ALL over again...but farther along then it was. jmg257 Mar 2013 #58

You obviously believe that responsible and sane gun owners are not horrified by ... spin Mar 2013 #49

"obviously believe that responsible and sane gun owners are not horrified"? jmg257 Mar 2013 #51

You seem to enjoy using that term. ... spin Mar 2013 #62

I often lump numerous gun owners together. More so recently with the sudden wave jmg257 Mar 2013 #64

Over the years I have learned not to lump people together. ... spin Mar 2013 #66

You make numerous good points. Keeping cool and keeping jmg257 Mar 2013 #70

I think we have had a interesting and productive discussion. ... spin Mar 2013 #73

No. Lack of representing the people's interest killed the AWB n/t HereSince1628 Mar 2013 #17

EO's didn't need a vote and there is still hope for background checks etc. One_Life_To_Give Mar 2013 #19

Are you suggesting that Pres. Obama can issue an EO banning assault weapons? premium Mar 2013 #20

Suggesting he singed 23 EO's on gun safety One_Life_To_Give Mar 2013 #29

I agree with you. premium Mar 2013 #32

that's the point bossy22 Mar 2013 #23

No, we'll still have universal background checks... Deep13 Mar 2013 #52

NO. BUT It ended the career of probably about 155 house 20 senators who will lose by 2020. graham4anything Mar 2013 #55

Keep dreaming. badtoworse Mar 2013 #69

No, NRA 'killed' gun control. elleng Mar 2013 #60