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DanTex

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61. Do you know the back story?

Fri Mar 22, 2013, 05:07 PM

Mar 2013

This thread is a continuation of another thread where a man at a tech conference made a joke about a "dongle" (which is a funny-sounding technical term) and a woman overheard him and took a picture of him and posted it on twitter, which then resulted in the man losing his job, and the subsequent uproar from the internet resulted in the woman losing her job also.

Whether or not we use the term "microaggression", I don't think anyone is saying it's OK, for example, for a gynecologist to tell a woman “You have access to birth control pills now. That doesn’t give you an excuse to sleep around.” This is an example from that website.

But a lot of the comments here are from people who think that making a "dongle" joke in a private conversation between two men doesn't rise to the level of a "microaggression" against a woman who was eavesdropping on them.

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Microaggressions [View all] redqueen Mar 2013 OP

eavesdropping on a coversation you're not part of, is a microaggression. Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #1

Context? Cali_Democrat Mar 2013 #8

I believe this is spilling over from this thread deutsey Mar 2013 #18

Ah... Cali_Democrat Mar 2013 #63

The examples on that page seem like legitimate aggressions. DanTex Mar 2013 #2

Yes. Microagressions occur almost constantly, MineralMan Mar 2013 #3

I disagree that no amount of education will help. nt redqueen Mar 2013 #9

OK. You disagree. MineralMan Mar 2013 #12

That's a defeatist attitude el_bryanto Mar 2013 #26

Not at all. When someone does something like that, MineralMan Mar 2013 #29

Most people don't call it out, though. They hear 'suck it up', 'grow a thicker skin', etc. redqueen Mar 2013 #39

OK. Are those people reading these discussions? I doubt it, MineralMan Mar 2013 #44

Some will. redqueen Mar 2013 #46

It's not that I don't think it should be discussed. MineralMan Mar 2013 #47

Read your comments here again. redqueen Mar 2013 #48

I don't need to read them again. I wrote them. MineralMan Mar 2013 #50

You're not listening. nt redqueen Mar 2013 #52

Nor are you, apparently. MineralMan Mar 2013 #53

he didn't believe any education around rape was needed either, and bettyellen Mar 2013 #98

if you were raised a woman, you'd KNOW that some need to hear the message that they don't need to bettyellen Mar 2013 #88

Do you make a big deal of it on the internet only or do you do it in real life? XRubicon Mar 2013 #54

i think we all have to pick our battles bettyellen Mar 2013 #90

Advertising can sell millions on cigarettes and sodas el_bryanto Mar 2013 #51

Great idea...advertising. MineralMan Mar 2013 #57

Small egalitarian hunter-gatherer societies Shankapotomus Mar 2013 #93

'You need to grow a thicker skin' Cirque du So-What Mar 2013 #4

I agree completely. nt redqueen Mar 2013 #10

Orwellian quinnox Mar 2013 #5

kinda like constantly throwing out "thought police" "big brother" to shut people up. see how easy seabeyond Mar 2013 #7

Oh, my. Zorra Mar 2013 #11

don't people realize that just because they think something does not mean it needs to be shared Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2013 #45

You mean like tweeting a picture of someone whose conversation you're eavesdropping on, Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #70

two wrongs don't make a right. Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2013 #73

there's no comparison. she launched a nuclear attack in response to a penis joke. made HiPointDem Mar 2013 #103

was he on his on time? if so, I withdraw however, I was of the understanding that he was on the job. Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2013 #104

This message was self-deleted by its author Generation_Why Mar 2013 #6

My Own Microagression.... Jasana Mar 2013 #13

You reminded me of one... redqueen Mar 2013 #14

And I hope you read him the riot act. He deserved it. MineralMan Mar 2013 #27

lol, no. I wws raised to believe that's just how men are. redqueen Mar 2013 #31

Ah, OK. Too bad. People say dumbass things all the time. MineralMan Mar 2013 #34

One more post: MineralMan Mar 2013 #35

I'm curious... What do you think would have happened Sargasso Sea Mar 2013 #68

I would have made an enemy MineralMan Mar 2013 #77

Thanks for your response. nt Sargasso Sea Mar 2013 #79

so are you starting to understand how that works now? the one on one thing? bettyellen Mar 2013 #91

Good for you! smirkymonkey Mar 2013 #111

K&R Solly Mack Mar 2013 #15

So a whole lot of microaggressions justify a "macroagression"? jeff47 Mar 2013 #16

No. And I hope we can stay on topic. redqueen Mar 2013 #17

Right. Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #24

because one speaks out about a miacroaggression does not mean one explodes or it is seabeyond Mar 2013 #19

The Big Bang. Rex Mar 2013 #21

Posting's a person's picture on social media without their permission in order to create a backlash EOTE Mar 2013 #28

That is what I thought it was about. Rex Mar 2013 #55

There is a link to examples in the OP. redqueen Mar 2013 #59

I know that now, but thought that it was about the dongle thread at first Rex Mar 2013 #60

I'm pretty sure this IS about the dongle thread. EOTE Mar 2013 #62

That mircoaggression when left to build up has a cumulative effect Rex Mar 2013 #64

I think Vinnie's response down thread sums things up rather well. EOTE Mar 2013 #67

'zero conflict resolution abilities' Rex Mar 2013 #71

Except, the "microaggression" was in a private conversation the would-be aggressee eavesdropped on. Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #69

It's about reframing a thread.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Mar 2013 #81

It's about addressing an important issue. redqueen Mar 2013 #83

Yeah, that sums it up better than I could have. nt EOTE Mar 2013 #86

Indeed. Pretty asymmetric, isn't it? n/t lumberjack_jeff Mar 2013 #84

Mircoaggression is what got the two people fired. Rex Mar 2013 #20

See post 17. nt redqueen Mar 2013 #22

Rodger. Rex Mar 2013 #23

Taking someone's picture & posting it on the internet w/o their consent sounds like "rape culture" Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #25

minimizing? childish at best. nt seabeyond Mar 2013 #36

How can you stand by and enable the pornification of the objectifying filth-culture that says it's Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #38

I LOLed. EOTE Mar 2013 #40

I can't hear you over the sound of my dongle dinging Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #42

LMAO! RiffRandell Mar 2013 #74

i do not know anything about what you are going on about, and your childish mocking reinforces seabeyond Mar 2013 #41

dung dongles? I heard there Anonymous is getting involved Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #43

It needs to be taken seriously, because each individual one is small, but they add up. Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #30

LOL! Yeah, microaggressions are what we older folks used to call LIFE! Vinnie From Indy Mar 2013 #32

Your statement on microaggression seems to be somewhat aggressive itself. EOTE Mar 2013 #37

civility jollyreaper2112 Mar 2013 #33

You know your thread was worth posting gollygee Mar 2013 #49

I don't know where the disonnect is. redqueen Mar 2013 #56

Or not. I just read the whole thing. I could have been doing something productive. Comrade Grumpy Mar 2013 #58

Do you know the back story? DanTex Mar 2013 #61

No, it isn't. nt redqueen Mar 2013 #65

Of course it is. At least, that's what people are responding to. DanTex Mar 2013 #75

Right. it's one of those "coincidences." Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #76

Exactly. Just dont "attempt to silence conversation"! Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #66

Always the same group of usual suspects MattBaggins Mar 2013 #78

Yep. redqueen Mar 2013 #85

sticks and stones and all arely staircase Mar 2013 #72

yep very right on. Phillip McCleod Mar 2013 #80

Can we come up with some examples of micropassiveagressions? n/t lumberjack_jeff Mar 2013 #82

'microagression' = someone saying something i don't like. it's called 'life'. if you can't handle HiPointDem Mar 2013 #87

Exactly tabasco Mar 2013 #89

The term �microaggressions� was originally coined to speak particularly to racialized experiences. bettyellen Mar 2013 #92

+1 Sargasso Sea Mar 2013 #95

so what? a 'microagression' is a remark, intentional or otherwise, that offends. it's not HiPointDem Mar 2013 #96

but they are much more frequently aimed at women and minorities simply BECAUSE they are women bettyellen Mar 2013 #97

you don't know that; but even if it is the case, your tactics are guaranteed to worsen the HiPointDem Mar 2013 #101

actually, I do know that. when it came to racism- it was largely black men that spoke out bettyellen Mar 2013 #105

actually, you don't -- which is why you put the comment in the past tense. i didn't see HiPointDem Mar 2013 #106

um, everything in my last post was current tense. and that you "haven't noticed" the link in the OP bettyellen Mar 2013 #107

"when it came to racism" = past tense. Don't blame me for your own unclear writing. HiPointDem Mar 2013 #108

Sorry for attempting to give you some context- but all the parts relating to me were present bettyellen Mar 2013 #109

I did read it. I added further comments after your post. Carry on with your agonizing over HiPointDem Mar 2013 #110

Microaggressions are symptoms of Shankapotomus Mar 2013 #94

There is a semi-famous foreigner here in Japan who became Japanese and Bonobo Mar 2013 #99

It's weird that I've never heard of this before. But it makes so much sense. Gravitycollapse Mar 2013 #100

'Microagressions' are a big deal. Well, now I've heard everything. rrneck Mar 2013 #102

K&R smirkymonkey Mar 2013 #112