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In reply to the discussion: This message was self-deleted by its author [View all]bluedigger
(17,458 posts)56. Well, not quite the size of Bermuda...
Under construction by contractors with top-secret clearances, the blandly named Utah Data Center is being built for the National Security Agency. A project of immense secrecy, it is the final piece in a complex puzzle assembled over the past decade. Its purpose: to intercept, decipher, analyze, and store vast swaths of the worlds communications as they zap down from satellites and zip through the underground and undersea cables of international, foreign, and domestic networks. The heavily fortified $2 billion center should be up and running in September 2013. Flowing through its servers and routers and stored in near-bottomless databases will be all forms of communication, including the complete contents of private emails, cell phone calls, and Google searches, as well as all sorts of personal data trailsparking receipts, travel itineraries, bookstore purchases, and other digital pocket litter. It is, in some measure, the realization of the total information awareness program created during the first term of the Bush administrationan effort that was killed by Congress in 2003 after it caused an outcry over its potential for invading Americans privacy.
But this is more than just a data center, says one senior intelligence official who until recently was involved with the program. The mammoth Bluffdale center will have another important and far more secret role that until now has gone unrevealed. It is also critical, he says, for breaking codes. And code-breaking is crucial, because much of the data that the center will handlefinancial information, stock transactions, business deals, foreign military and diplomatic secrets, legal documents, confidential personal communicationswill be heavily encrypted. According to another top official also involved with the program, the NSA made an enormous breakthrough several years ago in its ability to cryptanalyze, or break, unfathomably complex encryption systems employed by not only governments around the world but also many average computer users in the US. The upshot, according to this official: Everybodys a target; everybody with communication is a target.
For the NSA, overflowing with tens of billions of dollars in post-9/11 budget awards, the cryptanalysis breakthrough came at a time of explosive growth, in size as well as in power. Established as an arm of the Department of Defense following Pearl Harbor, with the primary purpose of preventing another surprise assault, the NSA suffered a series of humiliations in the post-Cold War years. Caught offguard by an escalating series of terrorist attacksthe first World Trade Center bombing, the blowing up of US embassies in East Africa, the attack on the USS Cole in Yemen, and finally the devastation of 9/11some began questioning the agencys very reason for being. In response, the NSA has quietly been reborn. And while there is little indication that its actual effectiveness has improvedafter all, despite numerous pieces of evidence and intelligence-gathering opportunities, it missed the near-disastrous attempted attacks by the underwear bomber on a flight to Detroit in 2009 and by the car bomber in Times Square in 2010there is no doubt that it has transformed itself into the largest, most covert, and potentially most intrusive intelligence agency ever created.
In the processand for the first time since Watergate and the other scandals of the Nixon administrationthe NSA has turned its surveillance apparatus on the US and its citizens. It has established listening posts throughout the nation to collect and sift through billions of email messages and phone calls, whether they originate within the country or overseas. It has created a supercomputer of almost unimaginable speed to look for patterns and unscramble codes. Finally, the agency has begun building a place to store all the trillions of words and thoughts and whispers captured in its electronic net. And, of course, its all being done in secret. To those on the inside, the old adage that NSA stands for Never Say Anything applies more than ever.
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/03/ff_nsadatacenter/
But this is more than just a data center, says one senior intelligence official who until recently was involved with the program. The mammoth Bluffdale center will have another important and far more secret role that until now has gone unrevealed. It is also critical, he says, for breaking codes. And code-breaking is crucial, because much of the data that the center will handlefinancial information, stock transactions, business deals, foreign military and diplomatic secrets, legal documents, confidential personal communicationswill be heavily encrypted. According to another top official also involved with the program, the NSA made an enormous breakthrough several years ago in its ability to cryptanalyze, or break, unfathomably complex encryption systems employed by not only governments around the world but also many average computer users in the US. The upshot, according to this official: Everybodys a target; everybody with communication is a target.
For the NSA, overflowing with tens of billions of dollars in post-9/11 budget awards, the cryptanalysis breakthrough came at a time of explosive growth, in size as well as in power. Established as an arm of the Department of Defense following Pearl Harbor, with the primary purpose of preventing another surprise assault, the NSA suffered a series of humiliations in the post-Cold War years. Caught offguard by an escalating series of terrorist attacksthe first World Trade Center bombing, the blowing up of US embassies in East Africa, the attack on the USS Cole in Yemen, and finally the devastation of 9/11some began questioning the agencys very reason for being. In response, the NSA has quietly been reborn. And while there is little indication that its actual effectiveness has improvedafter all, despite numerous pieces of evidence and intelligence-gathering opportunities, it missed the near-disastrous attempted attacks by the underwear bomber on a flight to Detroit in 2009 and by the car bomber in Times Square in 2010there is no doubt that it has transformed itself into the largest, most covert, and potentially most intrusive intelligence agency ever created.
In the processand for the first time since Watergate and the other scandals of the Nixon administrationthe NSA has turned its surveillance apparatus on the US and its citizens. It has established listening posts throughout the nation to collect and sift through billions of email messages and phone calls, whether they originate within the country or overseas. It has created a supercomputer of almost unimaginable speed to look for patterns and unscramble codes. Finally, the agency has begun building a place to store all the trillions of words and thoughts and whispers captured in its electronic net. And, of course, its all being done in secret. To those on the inside, the old adage that NSA stands for Never Say Anything applies more than ever.
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/03/ff_nsadatacenter/
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On the contrary. Ask every one of your facebook friends to tag you in a foreign country.
Baitball Blogger
Mar 2013
#54
Privacy on FaceBook has always been a fantasy as is privacy on DU or anywhere online. (nt)
nessa
Mar 2013
#114
You? How many times do you think I posted on BCCI, IranContra, CIA drug running? ;)
blm
Mar 2013
#55
Frank Church warned us. His committee was about the LAST time Congress held CIA, NSA accountablee
Octafish
Mar 2013
#4
I think it's time for another Church Committee. We've let the CIA run rampant since 9/11.
Comrade Grumpy
Mar 2013
#16
easy to analyze piles of data with computers, and very quickly, on an as-needed basis.
HiPointDem
Mar 2013
#25
Million $$$ question to CIA: can you process it all, morons? No, you can't. You should know it but
idwiyo
Mar 2013
#13
yeah, they're collecting it but they're too dumb to process it. that's the ticket.
HiPointDem
Mar 2013
#26
Entire set of data has to be processed first (sorted). THAT requires a hell of a lot of processing
idwiyo
Mar 2013
#33
The problem is the size of initial data set, how long does it take to process and index, how fast
idwiyo
Mar 2013
#37
Still the same questions remain. We are not talking here about targeting one specific individual
idwiyo
Mar 2013
#43
Yep, false positives. And criminals walked/walk free because of false negatives. Never mind we
idwiyo
Mar 2013
#51
but computers can access information that would not have been accessible in earlier times.
HiPointDem
Mar 2013
#90
Only after the raw data is processed and stored correctly. Oh, forgot to mention, backups.
idwiyo
Mar 2013
#91
i'm not the one saying they can't process the data. your remarks should be addressed to the
HiPointDem
Mar 2013
#40
Amazon computers store data. The initial data set has to be processed by said computers to something
idwiyo
Mar 2013
#42
and yet, if i made a death threat to some public official on social media, i'll bet federal agents
HiPointDem
Mar 2013
#45
Not unless someone else notifies them. Otherwise your chances to have a visit from FBI are very low.
idwiyo
Mar 2013
#49
Exactly. It's a Nobel prize right there if someone figures how to teach computer to sort the data
idwiyo
Mar 2013
#92
Don't even bother to worry about it. They have to convert piles of data into useful info and unless
idwiyo
Mar 2013
#17
The CIA has a special team to do stupid stuff for them as do many places, they are called....
Lady Freedom Returns
Mar 2013
#36
Yes, and they do really stupid stuff, that's the main problem. I am not even going to start on the
idwiyo
Mar 2013
#38
Don't give them ideas, please. :) Sadly I wouldn't be surprised at all if this is how
idwiyo
Mar 2013
#107
It occurred to me today that in the early 2000s, and in spite of the fact that banks
JDPriestly
Mar 2013
#102
networks of associations, and not only of 'terrorists'. and the other side of the coin is that
HiPointDem
Mar 2013
#28
The CIA is late getting into that game....the NSA is the outfit I'd worry about more....
OldDem2012
Mar 2013
#50
If you have ever owned a domain name for a political website and had access to the visit logs...
stevenleser
Mar 2013
#76
Good luck searching through a zillion "OMG, look at this picture of my food" posts
NightWatcher
Mar 2013
#81
You don't think a human being sits down and tries to sift through all this, do you?
markpkessinger
Mar 2013
#109
We always knew this was the case. The trick is be worthy of their surveillance. Earn your file.
villager
Mar 2013
#101
if someone had a record of every single internet action the average person ever made
markiv
Mar 2013
#113
Oh, that's OK, the CIA thugs are spying on us to protect our "freedom".
Tierra_y_Libertad
Mar 2013
#123