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In reply to the discussion: My bad sex wasn’t rape [View all]bettyellen
(47,209 posts)she does link to her controversial article in the piece. and that article goes on to describe (in a little too much detail, I think) her "acting out" sexually at a young age, and initiating sex play while younger than 15. That too, has me questioning her suddenly coy omission of details as to what actually happened with the two boys. But it was necessary in order to leave the reader unable to judge at all what happened. (as well as clarifying whether it was considered statutory at the time)
apparently, there is a 50/50 change it was legal- but she doesn't say which. there's also a chance that she initiated that sex and was engaging those boys herself in sexual and consensual way. we really don't know. and I think that's why people see an agenda- to muddy the waters of what rape is, and to write something "controversial" instead of an honest examination of the issue.
And her being unable to use that word to explain what happened to her at age six, gosh- what IS rape if not that? i just see a lot of confusion and self blame in her perspective. she's no one to look to for answers here.
I think, in a similar way Girls tried to muddy the waters to create controversy. But that's fine, because it's fiction- not journalism.
Didn't Adam stop the particular thing she didn't like and move on- even though he protested? I thought so.
I thought there was supposed to be some irony in that she had a very detailed list of what is okay, had been very vocal in the past.... and he found a way to totally upset her by following those rules. And it left me wondering since she so great about clear consent why wouldn't she say hey wait- stop now. I totally expected her to stop the sex because it seemed to be going bad for her. I think there was supposed to be some irony in there, or something. I don't want to say anymore unless I see it again.
As far as Stuebenville, it's hard to know what the supporters vs non supporters numbers are. Aside from the families of those boys, there's just no excuse at all. That women are also ganging up on her- friends testifying and others threatening just shows you exactly how it is acceptable to openly support rapists there. If that's not a sick little culture being exposed, I don't know what is. Not broad brushing any place- and I think we need to agree to discuss segments of society without accusing everyone of broadbrushing all men, or Stuebenville residents, etc.