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Donald Ian Rankin

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35. I don't think much short of repealing the 2nd would make much difference, to be honest.

Reply to Maraya1969 (Original post)

Sat Mar 23, 2013, 06:52 PM

Mar 2013

If you get rid of 100% of the guns, you'll get rid of 100% of the shootings, tautologically. But if you get rid of 50% of the guns, you won't cut shootings by anywhere near 50%, because people who actually want to shoot people will be the last to give up their guns, and if you have lots of legally-owned guns then I suspect it's very difficult indeed to make it hard to get hold of guns illegally.

I think full-on, UK-style gun control would be a very good thing indeed for the USA. I don't see any chance whatsoever of that happening in the forseeable future.

I'm not convinced that any kind of gun control that might possibly pass a 2nd-amendment challenge in court would result in a significant reduction in the number of shootings per year, and I'm not convinced it's a good use of campaigning effort.

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Let's create an anti-NRA lobby and give the same amount of money they give - to anti-gun candidates. [View all] Maraya1969 Mar 2013 OP

the worse congress money can buy spanone Mar 2013 #1

I just love black and white thinking. Carry on. Maraya1969 Mar 2013 #18

Meek Mike, the Great Equalizer has done just that. Support the 800 Mayors against Guns. graham4anything Mar 2013 #2

Thats great, support one of the worst 1%ers out there to the hilt ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2013 #4

the NRA and the people with guns are the authoritarians and the bullies graham4anything Mar 2013 #5

1%ers are the bullies...and they do it everywhere, just like Bloomie ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2013 #9

Joe Biden is against guns/bullets. graham4anything Mar 2013 #10

This is about 1%ers and the worshiping of them ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2013 #11

Didn't Biden say people should get a shotgun or something to that effect? dkf Mar 2013 #17

And didn't Biden support the Iraq War Resolution? AnotherMcIntosh Mar 2013 #28

What are we doing in Syria I wonder? dkf Mar 2013 #30

Get a shotgun and fire it through the door at noises on the other side if I remember correctly. cherokeeprogressive Mar 2013 #31

Wow. I wonder what his wife thinks about his cavalier attitude towards doors. AnotherMcIntosh Mar 2013 #32

All's I know is that he hates doors. n/t cherokeeprogressive Mar 2013 #38

Their numbers "skyrocket" after Newtown. Maraya1969 Mar 2013 #15

I was referring to the mayors ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2013 #34

I did not know this. Thanks for the information! Maraya1969 Mar 2013 #13

You might want to cross post this in the new Gun Control Reform Activism ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2013 #3

Do you know of any anti-gun candidates? Or a lot of anti-gun citizens? Honeycombe8 Mar 2013 #6

anti-gun citizens, yes Duckhunter935 Mar 2013 #7

I said I don't "know" any. I see some posters in blogs say they are, but I don't know them. Honeycombe8 Mar 2013 #21

Actually is just a handful, some of who post with great frequency ... Scuba Mar 2013 #26

It was just an idea that popped into my head. Your point is valid. But I see that there is Maraya1969 Mar 2013 #14

Would Dianne Feinstein, according to her own words, qualify? AnotherMcIntosh Mar 2013 #33

Deceptive editing? Progressive dog Mar 2013 #39

Good idea. bluedigger Mar 2013 #8

There are numerous such organizations Lurks Often Mar 2013 #12

I like it, nra power is money not votes imho XRubicon Mar 2013 #16

Maybe gabby Giffords PAC can do something? Not sure marions ghost Mar 2013 #19

See we are scatered. If all these groups got together and pooled their money they could Maraya1969 Mar 2013 #24

Groups could network marions ghost Mar 2013 #29

So you believe that"buy us a great congress and senate!" is the way to run the country? oneshooter Mar 2013 #40

It would be a VERY good idea to have our authentic position on the 2nd Amendment represented for patrice Mar 2013 #20

It'd be fun to try to co-opt the N, R, A & smart to use the word NATIONAL in the name, so . . . patrice Mar 2013 #22

National Responsible Arms Authority Maraya1969 Mar 2013 #23

I like the way that word parallels the NRA's own de facto claims of absolute authority. I also patrice Mar 2013 #27

Something like this could be used as a central set of standards to assess the extent to which patrice Mar 2013 #25

I don't think much short of repealing the 2nd would make much difference, to be honest. Donald Ian Rankin Mar 2013 #35

Fundamental problem with your idea. krispos42 Mar 2013 #36

Your problem is not just the NRA. ... spin Mar 2013 #37