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In reply to the discussion: The marginalization of "The Left" through the years. Not hearing us now at all. [View all]graham4anything
(11,464 posts)99.9% of all people, were 100% for Afghanastan and Korea and WW2 and WW1, etc.
It is a myth that the supposed far left perpetrates these days to make people forget that.
Late years of Vietnam were not liked, nor was Iraq, but all the others had bipartisian appeal.
And if you remember, it was Nixon that ended the war, because of sabatoge during the LBJ years, and it was JFK that hired McNamara in the first place.
But it is all a distraction to a simple fact.
LBJ would have creamed Nixon, and the Wallace racists wouldn't have won what they did,
proving yet again 3rd parties ruin everything.
Look to California and their 40 electoral votes, all of which went to Nixon, who received Mitt's 47% in California, THANKS to 3rd party of Wallace. 53% of California did not vote for HHH.
At heart, LBJ was a bigger peacenik than George McGovern and Eugene McCarthy and far to the left on all the more important social issues than both put together, who really were just singular issue candidates. LBJ was also far to the left of RFK on social issues.
If they had been President in 1964, they would have done the same thing. So would have
anyone.
You forget, losing was not an option back then, which is why there was a space race to the moon at the same exact time. There was no room for losing.
You also forget there was almost NO chance Bobby Kennedy would have been the nominee
and there was almost no chance HHH was going to win the electoral college.
(rules were later changed to stop that, for well, not sure if it has until 2008 been for the better.)
Nixon did a good job at exploiting the fracture and the racism.
but in retrospect, did Reagan/Bush/Bush and in future Jeb, bring you peace?