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jazzimov

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4. BULLSHIT! There is ALWAYS a "middle ground".

Reply to graham4anything (Original post)

Sun Mar 24, 2013, 10:55 PM

Mar 2013

Personally, I don't care at all for Mayor Bloomberg.

Now, ask me about the gun control policies and issues, which have nothing to do with either personality.

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One is either for NRA/LaPierre/Guns, or for Mike Bloomberg/anti-gun side. NO middle ground. [View all] graham4anything Mar 2013 OP

I don't like the NRA. I don't like Bloomberg. NYC_SKP Mar 2013 #1

Until I started mentioning Mayor Lindsay, not one person here ever did. graham4anything Mar 2013 #7

So, everything he supports is now suspect? baldguy Mar 2013 #8

So talk about "stop and frisk" then. Who needs that pesky Fourth Amendment, right? cherokeeprogressive Mar 2013 #11

And that has to do with gun control....how? baldguy Mar 2013 #13

OH... that's right. They're stopping blacks and latinos in a search for cherokeeprogressive Mar 2013 #14

You're admitting it has nothing to do with the discussion at hand. baldguy Mar 2013 #15

Which is exactly why Guilt by Association is a logical fallacy. stevenleser Mar 2013 #125

Don't force people to choose... Melon_Lord Mar 2013 #2

Simpletons allow propaganda to make their choices for them. As you apparently have. baldguy Mar 2013 #10

Some of us can walk and chew gum at the same time... Melon_Lord Mar 2013 #25

A well-respected DUer was reduced to foaming at the mouth when debating me on gun control derby378 Mar 2013 #46

Yeah, But You're The One Who Claimed The NRA's Harlon Carter Was Worthy Of Respect. Paladin Mar 2013 #75

Mr Benchley ??? michreject Mar 2013 #86

Not saying who it was... derby378 Mar 2013 #111

I don't want to know michreject Mar 2013 #131

You could say progress or no progress olddots Mar 2013 #99

Violence is part of human nature... Melon_Lord Mar 2013 #141

So: Entire Rooms Full Of Dead First Graders And Teachers Are OK With You..... Paladin Mar 2013 #149

Wow, two insults in the same thread. Kingofalldems Mar 2013 #105

+1000 nt Mojorabbit Mar 2013 #115

This issue actually expands and overlaps with other issues. HereSince1628 Mar 2013 #3

BULLSHIT! There is ALWAYS a "middle ground". jazzimov Mar 2013 #4

I'm with Mike all the way. LaPierre wants to say Bloomberg can't buy America but we Thinkingabout Mar 2013 #5

Your problem is not so much the NRA which only has 4.5 million members ... spin Mar 2013 #74

Membership rolls walk, PAC contributions talk.. LanternWaste Mar 2013 #108

In the end, votes at the ballot box count most. ... spin Mar 2013 #117

Your headline: Sounds Rovian. Eleanors38 Mar 2013 #132

Perhaps if NRA spent as much on educating gun owners on operating them safely and Thinkingabout Mar 2013 #124

I would support public service announcements by the NRA to educate gun owners. ... spin Mar 2013 #126

I must praise you on being a sensible and safe gun owner. If I were to bet you probably Thinkingabout Mar 2013 #128

Yes, I do store my firearms in a safes or lock boxes. ... spin Mar 2013 #130

What ridiculous bullshit (nt) Recursion Mar 2013 #6

Fuck the NRA and fuck Michael Bloomberg too. cherokeeprogressive Mar 2013 #9

To all the gun nuts saying "Fuck Bloomberg": baldguy Mar 2013 #12

Post removed Post removed Mar 2013 #51

FBI statistics state that gun violence in our nation has dropped to levels last seen ... spin Mar 2013 #120

Well, if I can only pick one I pick Bloomberg. I think he's an ass but MotherPetrie Mar 2013 #16

Absolute nonsense. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2013 #17

I can't wait to see the new guns with cup holders large enough for a big gulp. JVS Mar 2013 #18

Oh bullshit!! Nice channeling of GWB and his "you're either with us or against us", though.... Ghost in the Machine Mar 2013 #19

Nah, I'd be happy if they both went to a desert island somewhere. Kurska Mar 2013 #20

This OP is a great example of what's wrong with the world ZOB Mar 2013 #21

A-freakin'-MEN. Common Sense Party Mar 2013 #101

To all the pro-NRA people, anti-Mike- you had your chance to do something, you blew it graham4anything Mar 2013 #22

Fuck your right wing idol. Union Scribe Mar 2013 #24

+1 NutmegYankee Mar 2013 #28

You're on the side of Wayne LaPierre, the NRA and the Tea Party. Who's your RW idol? baldguy Mar 2013 #63

That's a load of logically-challenged horseshit. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2013 #69

So, it's now OK on DU to criticize a well-respected liberal politician by spreading RW lies? baldguy Mar 2013 #76

Bloomberg is a well respected liberal politician? premium Mar 2013 #79

Listen to the wind... derby378 Mar 2013 #85

Smell the wind...Phewwww! Eleanors38 Mar 2013 #133

Progressives love Mike Bloomberg Puzzledtraveller Mar 2013 #152

No, it's OK to criticize an overreaching, nascent totalitarian plutocrat. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2013 #81

Bloomberg is the 7th richest person in America pintobean Mar 2013 #116

Look, they are having a sale The Straight Story Mar 2013 #26

I would have missed this thread if it weren't for hootinholler Mar 2013 #31

Well, glad I am not alone in my observations (nt) The Straight Story Mar 2013 #32

Authoritarian much? Blue_In_AK Mar 2013 #113

I like Michael Bloomberg. He would make a great VP for President Hillary Clinton. Generation_Why Mar 2013 #23

Yeah, then he could expand his pipoman Mar 2013 #62

One is either FOR "you're with us or against us" or AGAINST "you're with us or against us" Richardo Mar 2013 #27

This statement is false. JVS Mar 2013 #29

One is either a fanatical ideologue or an ideological fanatic-no middle ground. hobbit709 Mar 2013 #30

Of course there is a middle ground hack89 Mar 2013 #33

I am for civil liberties. aikoaiko Mar 2013 #34

Mike Bloomberg is WINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNINGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG graham4anything Mar 2013 #35

Infinite beatitude of existence! It is; and there is nothing else beside It. derby378 Mar 2013 #49

LOL pipoman Mar 2013 #70

It's not supposed to be about mike aikoaiko Mar 2013 #129

You workin' for the other side? Eleanors38 Mar 2013 #135

Joe Biden is on our side. OOPS. Michelle Obama is on our side. graham4anything Mar 2013 #143

Don't get on the other side of the door from Joe. Eleanors38 Mar 2013 #147

I would be very happy (100% so) if Biden makes history being VP for a 3rd/4th term graham4anything Mar 2013 #148

I like my car. I like to drive on roads where the drivers and vehicles are regulated. BlueStreak Mar 2013 #36

No Gabby Giffords Then 4Q2u2 Mar 2013 #37

The hatred of him shows he's WINNNNNNNNNNNNNINGGGGGGGG! That makes me feeling groovy! graham4anything Mar 2013 #38

Level of hatred is your Approval Meter 4Q2u2 Mar 2013 #41

Do I smell pizza? derby378 Mar 2013 #50

I now the NRA folks hate him, as Doris Day sang "Que Sera Sera". graham4anything Mar 2013 #53

You're mistaken. premium Mar 2013 #56

I love Trayvon Martin and despise Zimmerman and his obsesison with guns and bullets. graham4anything Mar 2013 #58

? premium Mar 2013 #59

I can easily imagine that spiel... Melon_Lord Mar 2013 #65

That's what that reminds me of. premium Mar 2013 #67

So clever and funny. Kingofalldems Mar 2013 #106

I thought so too. premium Mar 2013 #107

Calling a DUer crazy eh? Kingofalldems Mar 2013 #104

I hope that your persona here is performance art RZM Mar 2013 #72

If it IS performance art...? Eleanors38 Mar 2013 #136

Does anybody (besides you) actually like Mike Bloomberg? RZM Mar 2013 #39

There's a few others, premium Mar 2013 #40

I don't even mean here, but in the country at large RZM Mar 2013 #42

I'd have to agree with you, premium Mar 2013 #44

Mike Bloomberg.... av8r1998 Mar 2013 #43

Don't forget he sent his NYPD goons to violently crush the OWS last year. nt. premium Mar 2013 #45

My Bad av8r1998 Mar 2013 #47

My cat's couldn't care either way. Remmah2 Mar 2013 #48

I opposed the NRA when Bloomie was some Republican money man so he does not own that issue Bluenorthwest Mar 2013 #52

Elizabeth Warren voted for Reagan and Bush41 and was a republican.Betcha didn't know that. graham4anything Mar 2013 #57

Bloomberg reminds me of this guy. premium Mar 2013 #60

I'm not interested in your divide and conquer tactics. bluedigger Mar 2013 #61

Elizabeth Warren is now on the side of Mike Bloomberg on the gun issue. graham4anything Mar 2013 #64

So what? bluedigger Mar 2013 #66

Yeah, so? premium Mar 2013 #71

Wait, so now you like her? Union Scribe Mar 2013 #73

So why did he support her *opponent* in the election? friendly_iconoclast Mar 2013 #83

Because he backed gun control and she didn't back then. Which is why she now switched. graham4anything Mar 2013 #84

By your standards, Richard Nixon was a better president than George McGovern would have been. friendly_iconoclast Mar 2013 #87

I supported McG.however, anybody knew he would never win. He was a horrible politician graham4anything Mar 2013 #89

Why weren't you willing to throw McG. under the bus like you were for Warren? friendly_iconoclast Mar 2013 #90

I support Joe Biden-Mike Bloomberg-Gabbie Giffords and Barack Obama on guns graham4anything Mar 2013 #92

Are you going to support primary challenges to pro-gun Dems in red states? friendly_iconoclast Mar 2013 #94

yup. May all the winners be anti-gun. only 17 change is needed graham4anything Mar 2013 #95

It will be very interesting to revisit that post in December 2014-bookmarked. friendly_iconoclast Mar 2013 #97

And if they lose in the general elections in those states/districts? "Too bad, so sad"? friendly_iconoclast Mar 2013 #98

And what will you say if they're replace by RW repubs? premium Mar 2013 #103

This is where your line of thinking av8r1998 Mar 2013 #109

Post #38 Told you about Gifford. 4Q2u2 Mar 2013 #96

There are other options. ZombieHorde Mar 2013 #110

Kindly take your support of, and apologias for, Republican enablers elsewhere. friendly_iconoclast Mar 2013 #88

After careful study of friendly iconoclast's post, premium Mar 2013 #91

It's more of the same "If you're not with us, you're supporting the terraists" horseshit. friendly_iconoclast Mar 2013 #93

Fallacy of excluded middle. ZombieHorde Mar 2013 #54

Basically the same as the "false choice" yellowcanine Mar 2013 #102

You found that caya in a typhoon? Congratulations! Eleanors38 Mar 2013 #138

What? lol ZombieHorde Mar 2013 #140

I'm against both of them madville Mar 2013 #55

W, I thought you retired? One_Life_To_Give Mar 2013 #68

I swear I recognize this debate style. NCTraveler Mar 2013 #77

Same here, and I can't place it either....oh wait, I got it! Lizzie Poppet Mar 2013 #134

what a steaming pile. n/t cali Mar 2013 #78

screw that. Niceguy1 Mar 2013 #80

In a similar vein... sarisataka Mar 2013 #82

I believe pipi_k Mar 2013 #100

As Kristofferson sang "Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose" graham4anything Mar 2013 #119

A couple of points... pipi_k Mar 2013 #142

Thanks for proving my point. It 100% can be done. graham4anything Mar 2013 #145

Ridiculous. Blue_In_AK Mar 2013 #112

I have nothing but contempt for La Pierre and the NRA, but I am FOR... hlthe2b Mar 2013 #114

The real question for the pro-gun/hate Great Equalizer people is the reverse of what you say graham4anything Mar 2013 #118

I will not support any politician that attempts to restrict my right to keep and bear arms. Llewlladdwr Mar 2013 #121

That's an insane point of view. NaturalHigh Mar 2013 #122

Do you think Joe Biden is an extremist? Do you think Michelle Obama an extremist? graham4anything Mar 2013 #123

The point-of-view is extreme. I don't care who posits it. NaturalHigh Mar 2013 #127

Which point of view? BTW, there is beauty in President Obama's point of view on everything. graham4anything Mar 2013 #146

It is a strange character you play here. tritsofme Mar 2013 #137

If we could get Michael Bloomberg to somehow regulate the amount of stupid shit that you post. I'd Guy Whitey Corngood Mar 2013 #139

One is either a black-and-white thinker, or sees everything as nuance. There is no middle ground. DLnyc Mar 2013 #144

I'd be more inclined to disagree with you were it not for the responses. Robb Mar 2013 #150

That is what happens when you venture out of your new isolation chamber hack89 Mar 2013 #151

I hope you won't take offense when I laugh. Robb Mar 2013 #153

I certainly wouldn't expect you to answer a hard question. hack89 Mar 2013 #154

You beg for us to understand your nuanced opinion, but choose to deal in absolutes yourself. Robb Mar 2013 #155

Thinking OWS was ineffective is not the same as supporting Bloomberg. hack89 Mar 2013 #156