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In reply to the discussion: What should we do to push the country to the left? [View all]struggle4progress
(126,732 posts)12. Every time and place presents its own onerous tasks
These are the times that try men's souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands by it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly: it is dearness only that gives every thing its value.
Thomas Paine
23 December 1776
Thomas Paine
23 December 1776
Let me give you a word of the philosophy of reform. The whole history of the progress of human liberty shows that all concessions yet made to her august claims have been born of earnest struggle. The conflict has been exciting, agitating, all-absorbing, and for the time being, putting all other tumults to silence. It must do this or it does nothing. If there is no struggle there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom and yet deprecate agitation are men who want crops without plowing up the ground; they want rain without thunder and lightning. They want the ocean without the awful roar of its many waters. This struggle may be a moral one, or it may be a physical one, and it may be both moral and physical, but it must be a struggle. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will. Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them, and these will continue till they are resisted with either words or blows, or with both.
Frederick Douglass
3 August 1857
Frederick Douglass
3 August 1857
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Step one: We need to regain control of the public education system. Without it, there is no
ladjf
Mar 2013
#1
I don't recommend education to "reform" society, just to enlighten it. Ignorance about the World
ladjf
Mar 2013
#9
South Africa won majority rule several years back, in a political settlement that resulted
struggle4progress
Mar 2013
#13
And did they manage without controlling any media, as well? I'll bet it was all face to face, no?
freshwest
Mar 2013
#16
The minority government had a number of legal tools for ensuring that strong opposition views
struggle4progress
Mar 2013
#18
To me, the lesson of the South African struggle is the dispensability of leaders:
struggle4progress
Mar 2013
#23
Thanks, I was just looking for similarity to the Rev's MLK, JJ, etc. in the USA.
freshwest
Mar 2013
#28
The ANC, oldest and largest of the anti-apartheid organizations, was founded in the era
struggle4progress
Mar 2013
#35
The closest thing I could find to that was "smoke shizzloads of pot and listen to music"
JVS
Mar 2013
#6
There may sometimes be important tactical or strategic reasons to vote on grounds other than
struggle4progress
Mar 2013
#36
I have no idea how to craft hard-and-fast rules in this regard. Nor am I adequately informed,
struggle4progress
Mar 2013
#39
The analysis, that our situation is hopeless, seems to me an analysis one ought never adopt,
struggle4progress
Mar 2013
#8
Sadly, not all of those examples were immediate wins: in some cases, there were terrible setbacks
struggle4progress
Mar 2013
#21
+1. Everything changes eventually. You have to do what you have to do, & when things look
HiPointDem
Mar 2013
#15
Once enough people begin to examine their own misconceptions about how things work,
struggle4progress
Mar 2013
#20
yes. and when your own life takes an unexpected turn, or the life of someone you know does,
HiPointDem
Mar 2013
#22
I once had a friend who carefully tracked attitudes of striking workers at a particular facility
struggle4progress
Mar 2013
#24
why did they expect the local and state governments to help them win a strike? that doesn't
HiPointDem
Mar 2013
#26
They were good hardworking people who believed that their elected leaders would share
struggle4progress
Mar 2013
#27
ok, that makes sense. they were good & hardworking, unlike those 'others' reagan was talking
HiPointDem
Mar 2013
#30
For that strategy to work, it must be implemented in local Democratic Primaries.
bvar22
Mar 2013
#47
Let working class social conservatives hang themselves by supporting conservatives
Populist_Prole
Mar 2013
#17
Don't wait until 2020. We need to gain ground during the 2014 midterms then regain
bluestate10
Mar 2013
#58
Stop voting for 3rd parties like Ron Paul/Perot/Nader/George Wallace and only vote democratic
graham4anything
Mar 2013
#33
One needs decades of continuous "rule." A vote from graham4anything for "RULE."
woo me with science
Mar 2013
#46