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Blue_Tires

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5. Like I've said from day one, EVERY community has a "Steubenville" or something similar
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 03:22 PM
Mar 2013

Steubenville was so much more noteworthy because of the extensive planning if the crime, and initial lack of interest from law enforcement despite an immense cache of incriminating evidence posted on social media...


Gonzalez and Toribio, both 18, were arrested on Feb. 20 and Feb. 22, respectively, and charged with sexual assault, which police later characterized as statutory rape, against the two 13-year-old victims. A third, unnamed 17-year-old boy was arrested on March 4 and also charged with sex assault on one of the 13-year-olds. Following news of their arrests, a large number of students used Twitter and other social media to post or send messages blaming the girls for “ruining the lives” of Gonzalez and Toribio. They called the girls “whore” and “snitch,” blamed them for hanging out with 18-year-olds in the first place, and more....

The bullying was brought to light in an extensive story by Jessica Glenza that The Register Citizen published on March 20 along with screen shots of the students’ tweets that were reproduced on the front page of the newspaper and on its website....

...As noted in a Register Citizen article published last week, many social media users in Torrington and around the nation seem to believe that statutory rape is not “real” rape because of the fact it is defined by age difference and not a physical attack....


Seriously; just how widespread is that belief?

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Athletes are the hero's and fools always protect their hero's. liberal N proud Mar 2013 #1
You cannot fix stupid. Rex Mar 2013 #2
Could you fix your title line please. This did not happen in VT cali Mar 2013 #3
D'oh! Thanks. riqster Mar 2013 #4
Like I've said from day one, EVERY community has a "Steubenville" or something similar Blue_Tires Mar 2013 #5
And how did the cops decide it was SR? riqster Mar 2013 #6
He seems to have subtracted 3 from 17 and 18, and gotten 14 and 15 Recursion Mar 2013 #41
Interesting riqster Mar 2013 #45
Sounds risky to me, but I'm no lawyer Recursion Mar 2013 #48
Some states have a "Romeo and Juliet provision" KamaAina Mar 2013 #51
CT is one of them Recursion Mar 2013 #53
See post #7 below. nt geek tragedy Mar 2013 #18
I can't help but think about this case... Archae Mar 2013 #7
God, his attorney was a ****** idiot... Blue_Tires Mar 2013 #11
Wait, what? Your first thought upon hearing of rape geek tragedy Mar 2013 #12
17 isn't "adult" either Recursion Mar 2013 #28
I've seen them listed as 18 years old. Is that incorrect? nt geek tragedy Mar 2013 #34
Two of the three perps were 18 riqster Mar 2013 #35
Two of them are now Recursion Mar 2013 #39
Yes, we do know the ages riqster Mar 2013 #43
The news reports that don't say when the sex happened? Recursion Mar 2013 #44
Article at the link says Feb 10 maddezmom Mar 2013 #47
Thank you. I had missed the second link. Recursion Mar 2013 #49
The point is, we don't know yet. Archae Mar 2013 #62
And straight to "the victim asked for it." Nice. (nt) Posteritatis Mar 2013 #63
That's not the point. Archae Mar 2013 #64
You mean one of your other posts putting the onus on the victim? (nt) Posteritatis Mar 2013 #65
Time to get rid of high school football? Seriously, I haven't heard madmom Mar 2013 #8
Get rid of the NFL, too KamaAina Mar 2013 #52
Well my tax dollars aren't paying for them, and they aren't madmom Mar 2013 #56
Not sure about the tax dollars KamaAina Mar 2013 #57
Tax dollars ARE Public money. nt riqster Mar 2013 #66
Precisely my point. KamaAina Mar 2013 #67
This picture makes me feel so much anger. gollygee Mar 2013 #9
I have no idea what the victim's feelings are and neither do you Recursion Mar 2013 #20
I'm talking about the bullying gollygee Mar 2013 #22
Sorry, I totally read your point wrong Recursion Mar 2013 #24
And the crime was reported by her father riqster Mar 2013 #23
How do parents find out? Recursion Mar 2013 #25
Oh please. A 13 year old girl cannot legally give "consent" (nt) Nye Bevan Mar 2013 #32
^THIS^ riqster Mar 2013 #36
No, but she can factually give consent, which is not the same thing Recursion Mar 2013 #38
Can an 11-year old "factually give consent"? A 9-year old? A 5-year old? Nye Bevan Mar 2013 #40
The law has to draw an arbitrary line Recursion Mar 2013 #42
So incredibly sick. Their parents must sufrommich Mar 2013 #10
My first though was gollygee Mar 2013 #15
I would be absolutely crushed. I'm guessing these kids sufrommich Mar 2013 #19
"Innocent until proven guilty" is a useful slogan IMO struggle4progress Mar 2013 #13
Did you take that position in the Assange case? nt geek tragedy Mar 2013 #14
I've never taken any position regarding Assange's guilt or innocence in the Swedish case struggle4progress Mar 2013 #59
True. riqster Mar 2013 #17
That last bit is the unfortunate truth Recursion Mar 2013 #26
Post removed Post removed Mar 2013 #21
Thank you for this post LiberalLoner Mar 2013 #33
But not completely accurate bike man Mar 2013 #54
Of course. OTOH why jump into a thread to denounce "the criminal"? It sounds to me as if struggle4progress Mar 2013 #60
What happened to the phrase: Downwinder Mar 2013 #16
It is obsolete, just like, innocent until proven guilty. CBGLuthier Mar 2013 #31
See Response 54. "Innocent until proven guilty" isn't accurate. bike man Mar 2013 #58
We have to respect middle school girls' agency to have sex with seniors. redqueen Mar 2013 #46
The awful thing is riqster Mar 2013 #50
Ugh. Reminds me of Hollywood defending Roman Polanski (nt) Nye Bevan Mar 2013 #27
Roman Polanski was three times her age and drugged her Recursion Mar 2013 #29
Both Polanski's victim and the victims in this case were 13 years old (nt) Nye Bevan Mar 2013 #30
Hero-worshiping athlethes is a plague on society. City Lights Mar 2013 #37
Same with the entertainment industry Floyd_Gondolli Mar 2013 #61
Considering the age of the girls, and that of the young "gentlemen," I don't think you can spin this nomorenomore08 Mar 2013 #55
This is one reason why I have never been and will never be . . . radicalliberal Apr 2013 #68
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