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In reply to the discussion: Don't know about you, but I'm still FURIOUS about Selection 2000. [View all]graham4anything
(11,464 posts)Ralph Nader, bought off, stole the election for the Bush's.
NEW HAMPSHIRE
4 electoral votes
Al Gore finished Nov. with 267
4 more
271 and seated
yet some people want to blame President Obama for everything, and DFS want to throw the election to Jeb in 2016.
Disconnect.
The one surest way in all 50 states is to vote democratic and make it such a huge landslide that none of the above can ever happen again
the one surest way to insure it will happen again is to vote 3rd party or sit at home in mock protest.
and pour another glass of whine later on.
Had the internet been what it was back then, all would have been outed.
BTW, Tim Russert was one of the major problems.
But yeah, 10 million voters stayed home in 2000 over the elections mantra that it didn't matter.
2000 was a direct cause/effect of Ralph Nader's mantra.
NH was a direct way Gore would have been seated.
seated=winning..
In a normal world, without 9-11, Bush would have been handily defeated in 2004 by Al Gore in a rematch.
But my blame goes back to Adlai Stevenson not getting enough votes to defeat Eisenhower, a bumbling fool, prototype for the later Ronald Reagan.
He didn't even want to be President
But why would anyone want to hold another protest vote in 2014, 2016, 2018 and not vote for either the democratic candidate or the one who will caucus.
the worst democratic Novemenber candidate(or one who will caucus) is still better.
Surest way for 2000 not to occur is to vote FOR the 2016 nomineee, not against someone else.
But there are those out there who will continue the protest whine.
I voted for Jon Corzine, stink and all.
and I would have voted for Nader, had he played fair and square and been the democratic candidate.
Just say NO loudly to any third party presidential run.
Look at what it and democratic fracture did in 1968, 1980, 2000 and 2004.
Far easier to win in a landslide, then later say how could Gore not be seated.
4 stinking electoral votes (and some say for principal, in NH).
Made all the difference in the world.
To those, how did that Bush thing do for you?