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80. There is sexuality and there is sexualizing

Mon Mar 25, 2013, 04:25 PM

Mar 2013

Victoria's Secret is very much into the sexualizing

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Victoria's Secret: Stop sexualizing our daughters with the Bright Young Things line
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The Mommy Lobby

The Mommy Lobby believes that young girls are overwhelmed with images that make them believe that their only worth comes from how they look. Victoria's Secret's latest line of lingerie is further promoting the idea that in order to fit it, young girls need to wear skimpy clothing and now underwear that have words like "wild", "call me" or "sexy" on them.

We are simply asking Victoria's Secret show a modicum of respect for our daughter. They have their entire adult lives to be grown up, please allow them to maintain their innocence and youth for as long as possible.

However, if Victoria's Secret continues to market items that are blatantly sexual, we the undersigned have committed to NOT SHOPPING at your store for as long as you continue to do so.

We, the undersigned fed up parents of young people, thank you.

(for more information on how you can make an impact, please visit us at www.theMommyLobby.org)

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Dear Victoria's Secret letter from a father [View all] beveeheart Mar 2013 OP

As a father of girls, this is sickening liberal N proud Mar 2013 #1

holding back sexuality is like trying to stop tides kiri Mar 2013 #74

There is a difference between learning about sexuality and exploiting girls liberal N proud Mar 2013 #77

that poster needs to go for conflating those two things CreekDog Mar 2013 #81

T-R-O-L-L? liberal N proud Mar 2013 #83

Possibly. Or just childless. n/t proReality Mar 2013 #101

childless?! shireen Mar 2013 #112

Me too. roody Mar 2013 #131

Thank you, Shireen. yankeepants Mar 2013 #139

This is coming from religious right anti-choice bible-thumpers. Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #98

There is sexuality and there is sexualizing Smilo Mar 2013 #80

signed, thanks for posting the link Tumbulu Mar 2013 #115

The "Mommy Lobby" is so concerned about the safety of children, they want you to contact congress Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #189

More from "The Mommy Lobby": "Protect a woman's right to choose... her weapon!" Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #188

omg... can't believe you're serious!..this is little more than product advertising for pedophiles Demonaut Mar 2013 #114

This underwear campaign sounds like roody Mar 2013 #132

Are you fucking kidding me? Blue Gardener Mar 2013 #145

I hope you meant to type do NOT need to! nt tblue37 Mar 2013 #151

I agree you. In_The_Wind Mar 2013 #154

Sexy underwear is part of the problem. Ms. Toad Mar 2013 #156

on what planet are people giving their 5 year olds adult underwear? Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #187

Adult underwear, Ms. Toad Mar 2013 #191

No thanks. Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #192

Get off it, kiri. I'm an atheist and that Victoria's Secret line makes me queasy. What tween needs catbyte Mar 2013 #180

Which line? Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #185

yeah, it's sickening that people can come onto DU and flog religious right bullshit. Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #97

Sometimes, even they are right liberal N proud Mar 2013 #100

Really. So you'll take the word of an anti-choice crazy over the company's own statement. Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #102

This message was self-deleted by its author Whisp Mar 2013 #106

Here is another source. ismnotwasm Mar 2013 #172

that's not a source. That's an AP-style rehash of the original thing. Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #173

Outstanding letter. CrispyQ Mar 2013 #2

Maybe, maybe not Bibliovore Mar 2013 #89

Thousands of other firms besides Victoria's Secret will target this teenager ... Auggie Mar 2013 #3

Parents will have to step up HappyMe Mar 2013 #4

Victoria's Secret knows: get them young, and you have them for life. CaliforniaPeggy Mar 2013 #5

"Feeling Lucky?" Euphoria Mar 2013 #6

My first thought was that would go well with karate lessons. Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #43

"Do not buy VS products." - exactly right. Gormy Cuss Mar 2013 #44

I have a feeling that the venn diagram between current VS customers and the people who get outraged Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #105

And the venn diagram of VS market targets and actual buyers contains less overlap than VS admits. Gormy Cuss Mar 2013 #134

I know, eh? Whisp Mar 2013 #146

so it doesn't matter that the "story" is a TOTAL misrepresentation coming straight from Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #165

not put up with bs... like the story in the OP? Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #164

Didn't American Eagle do this already? sir pball Mar 2013 #7

I believe Abercrombie & Fitch came under the gun too Auggie Mar 2013 #14

I think it was them, actually...disgusting. nt sir pball Mar 2013 #75

Why it's simply Puritanical to not make girls and women sexually available 24/7!!! Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2013 #8

It is not just this store mainstreetonce Mar 2013 #9

As a father of daughters myself... SavageWombat Mar 2013 #19

You don't have to be a prudish, religious, conservative ... earthside Mar 2013 #10

Agree 100% n/t ChazII Mar 2013 #82

And yet this line of products will be wildly popular LittleBlue Mar 2013 #11

Lifetime branding is nothing new lapislzi Mar 2013 #12

Watch Saturday morining TV. xtraxritical Mar 2013 #17

You could do it with age appropriate things, too union_maid Mar 2013 #31

Ugh.... Agschmid Mar 2013 #118

The bigger question is why do people buy it. joeglow3 Mar 2013 #13

I think the sexualization of children is child abuse. grasswire Mar 2013 #16

I'm a feminist..... llmart Mar 2013 #21

Outstanding post. Richardo Mar 2013 #27

It's more than just saying "no". It's "No, because....." jeff47 Mar 2013 #37

Bing-go. riqster Mar 2013 #57

My thoughts exactly! beveeheart Mar 2013 #45

Agreed. timdog44 Mar 2013 #50

That's what you call Isoldeblue Mar 2013 #52

There you go. My parents, way back in the 50s and 60s, MineralMan Mar 2013 #64

yes, parents wanting to be "cool" and liked by their kids JI7 Mar 2013 #79

I agree and I am Tumbulu Mar 2013 #117

I'm wondering how I would deal with this these days grasswire Mar 2013 #121

She hates sports, but loves ballet Tumbulu Mar 2013 #126

well, that's cool grasswire Mar 2013 #127

Thanks, I sure need lots of it Tumbulu Mar 2013 #136

because they are buying into that thing about girls and women = sexual entities Whisp Mar 2013 #22

I love that "Freedumbs"! Tumbulu Mar 2013 #119

....you hope a meteor kills the human race because people won't stop fucking? Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #167

This is how I see it, too.Aren't there rules on age appropriate things that his girls can and cannot The Wielding Truth Mar 2013 #61

maybe parents who want to be their kid's friends JI7 Mar 2013 #78

@VictoriasSecret n/t ProfessionalLeftist Mar 2013 #15

In case you were wondering... one_voice Mar 2013 #18

Well, let's hope if some girls do get those, they won't be displaying them Cleita Mar 2013 #23

I wear VS underwear and not only days I expect to get lucky tabbycat31 Mar 2013 #69

Oh I wear cute stuff too and I'm in my seventies and I wouldn't mind getting lucky. Cleita Mar 2013 #71

Just as bad as I imagined. progressoid Mar 2013 #25

Ummm. No. ProfessionalLeftist Mar 2013 #28

Yeah.. one_voice Mar 2013 #41

The first bra I ever saw on a person belonged to my 15 year old girlfriend MineralMan Mar 2013 #67

Wrong, wrong, wrong. beveeheart Mar 2013 #47

+1000 smirkymonkey Mar 2013 #107

That's something a child molester would design. UnrepentantLiberal Mar 2013 #33

Uff da! The next thing they'll do is MineralMan Mar 2013 #66

Revolting. What are they, a bunch of pedophiles designing & approving this crap? tpsbmam Mar 2013 #129

In the spirit of "anything for a buck" and when doing business all morality, Cleita Mar 2013 #20

'let the market decide' and the market is full of sickness in this respect. n/t Whisp Mar 2013 #30

Yeah if you read the comments at that blog gollygee Mar 2013 #53

VS just lost my business marions ghost Mar 2013 #24

VS could make a hell of alotta money with a plus size line Heather MC Mar 2013 #26

Yes why don't they do that? It's a great idea ProfessionalLeftist Mar 2013 #29

They could make a huge killing in the plus size market, but they won't. Sheldon Cooper Mar 2013 #32

From what I know of marketing LittleBlue Mar 2013 #35

Just distance the brand - call it (something) by Victoria's Secret. (nt) jeff47 Mar 2013 #40

I have a name for it Victoria's Big Secret!!! Heather MC Mar 2013 #42

LOL. That's awesome wyldwolf Mar 2013 #49

You've got my vote beveeheart Mar 2013 #51

So, we zaftig types aren't pretty? And they base their market on feeling superior? nolabear Mar 2013 #86

Not at all LittleBlue Mar 2013 #120

True dat. Make em anxious and tell them you have the cure. nolabear Mar 2013 #130

I think they could, too. Politicub Mar 2013 #149

My mother wouldn't even get me the days of the week underwear union_maid Mar 2013 #34

It's more than just Victoria's Secret. Take a look at the way we're dressing sinkingfeeling Mar 2013 #36

It is so disgusting Tumbulu Mar 2013 #116

You forgot this... Agschmid Mar 2013 #122

I appreciate his sentiment, but he is fighting a lost cause appealing to corporations to rhett o rick Mar 2013 #38

As a father I couldn't agree with this father more. BUT... wyldwolf Mar 2013 #39

I'm a father of a daughter who loves Dora Turborama Mar 2013 #54

In my opinion... wyldwolf Mar 2013 #58

What I dislike about Dora are the magical solutions to problems. kwassa Mar 2013 #93

To Be Honest ... Fantastic Anarchist Mar 2013 #46

Of course it's all about the money. 99Forever Mar 2013 #48

As a father it makes me sick too. blackspade Mar 2013 #55

We raised two daughters born in the eighties in L.A. olddots Mar 2013 #56

Props Dad BrainMann1 Mar 2013 #59

Damn... just reading the title... harmonicon Mar 2013 #60

As a father with a daughter, I agree. It's sickening. cleanhippie Mar 2013 #62

I heard a mother on TV mainstreetonce Mar 2013 #85

Like the "Juicy" line of apparel that white trash wears. DollarBillHines Mar 2013 #63

"white trash"??? zappaman Mar 2013 #84

Do you mean Juicy Couture? n/t bitchkitty Mar 2013 #87

Don't love the use of "white trash" but to each, their own. n/t Agschmid Mar 2013 #123

Hey, I am White Trash DollarBillHines Mar 2013 #144

for people who forget about po white trash datasuspect Mar 2013 #153

Victoria's Secret Responds Today on Facebook RockaFowler Mar 2013 #65

“Bright Young Things” for our college women? really? seabeyond Mar 2013 #90

you gonna believe the company, or are you going to believe the anti-choice religious right blogger? Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #96

reading comprehension. i was addressing VS letter of explanation. agenda much? seabeyond Mar 2013 #113

....fresh ground pepper? Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #128

In VS's defense tabbycat31 Mar 2013 #68

I think there is a wide range between white Hanes briefs MineralMan Mar 2013 #70

I agree tabbycat31 Mar 2013 #72

We had those open showers and locker rooms when I was in MineralMan Mar 2013 #73

I hate to tell you. We still have communal locker rooms at the gym. Cleita Mar 2013 #104

I suppose so. I've just never had any MineralMan Mar 2013 #150

Yes, there is plenty in between... Phentex Mar 2013 #76

Did you die of the embarrassment? llmart Mar 2013 #88

I did not die of embarassment tabbycat31 Mar 2013 #91

Happy Birthday! Chellee Mar 2013 #92

Some parents never acknowledge that their "children" are LibDemAlways Mar 2013 #143

Great letter Clear Blue Sky Mar 2013 #94

Do you have a "source" on this story that isn't right wing, religious right tripe? Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #95

color me shocked!! opiate69 Mar 2013 #108

not only that, but ISRAEL IS DIGGING UP OBAMA'S TREE!!!! Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #99

Here is the actual story. Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #103

Checked your link. love_katz Mar 2013 #109

Well that's awkward mythology Mar 2013 #110

Thanks for wrecking a great outrage story with facts Demo_Chris Mar 2013 #141

Oh no! Be gone with your pesky facts! HappyMe Mar 2013 #148

dangit datasuspect Mar 2013 #155

Damn! Sissyk Mar 2013 #157

It's a great companion to the "can you believe these purity balls????" thread. Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #161

If I was to start digging through that blog's archive name not needed Mar 2013 #190

you don't need to dig. Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #193

Forget it, Warren ProudToBeBlueInRhody Mar 2013 #159

DU may have something of a, uh, hearing problem. Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #162

Our society is obsessed with sex. JDPriestly Mar 2013 #111

I wish I could sign that letter. 840high Mar 2013 #124

Snopes: NYC_SKP Mar 2013 #125

Thanks for the link. This is much ado about nothing. n/t cynatnite Mar 2013 #135

Yeah, using Bieber proves they're totally not marketing to young girls. redqueen Mar 2013 #186

My daughters starting going to VS when they hit middle school (11- 12 yrs old) riderinthestorm Mar 2013 #194

As a single dad of a 17 year old daughter Nevernose Mar 2013 #133

Married mom here and I too have been buying VS for my girls riderinthestorm Mar 2013 #195

Next there will be little "Lolitas" modeling these outfits on the runway. This is just plain WRONG secondwind Mar 2013 #137

If people didn't buy it they wouldn't make it. JVS Mar 2013 #138

Google "edsel." They made it but people didn't buy it. nt raccoon Mar 2013 #206

I don't have the stomach to read through the comments BainsBane Mar 2013 #140

Oh god... jmowreader Mar 2013 #142

they've taken it down. All of it, the perditious fornication-enabling canvas sneakers and all. Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #171

Yeah, those beach towels would have just Corrupted The Morals Of Minors. jmowreader Mar 2013 #202

"Dear concerned Father: If it would make us a penny more in profit, we would sell your daughter tclambert Mar 2013 #147

This makes me a little bit glad I have boys My Good Babushka Mar 2013 #152

How very Jon Benet of VS. Blech. nt valerief Mar 2013 #158

THE STORY IS A FUCKING FAKE!!!! ProudToBeBlueInRhody Mar 2013 #160

keep it down, sonny! Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #163

I kinda like The Mentalist ProudToBeBlueInRhody Mar 2013 #204

I've never actually seen it. I just heard that industry meme about "old people love The Mentalist" Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #205

lol... did you bother to read it? Using Justin Bieber clearly shows they're not aiming @ young girls redqueen Mar 2013 #184

flawless victory! Whisp Mar 2013 #197

'Bright Young Things' is not targeted toward college Whisp Mar 2013 #166

oh FFS. Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #168

'Bright Young Things'.. 12ish. i agree. and in your face obvious. a college, young WOMAN seabeyond Mar 2013 #169

...really? People don't want to be sold things as "young"? Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #170

my warren. such outrage... because people are not buying your naivety that the company is really seabeyond Mar 2013 #174

And let's go back to whose word you're taking, shall we? Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #175

lets go back to the two posts of mine on this thread. talking about VS words. nothing else. agenda? seabeyond Mar 2013 #176

Right. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #177

lol seabeyond Mar 2013 #178

Nice try. No, really. I appreciate the effort. Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #179

. seabeyond Mar 2013 #181

I know you'll be praying for my soul. Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #182

not at 20 Whisp Mar 2013 #198

I'm sorry, but I'm not finding the anti-choice Heritage Foundation blogger Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #200

you are going to hurt yourself at that pace, W. Whisp Mar 2013 #201

I confess to a mild irritation that people are promoting religious right sources on DU Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #203

Dear Victoria Secret.... trixie Mar 2013 #183

Yeah, apparently being easily influenced runs in his family-- since he's buying this blogger's Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #196

amen demigoddess Mar 2013 #199