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Kurovski

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71. A few weeks ago on "Up With Chris Hayes"

Mon Mar 25, 2013, 04:40 PM

Mar 2013

he did an episode on the worldwide feminist movement, in it Mona Eltahawy mentioned how the Right wing uses reasonable sounding ways to disrupt discussion, and word wrasslin' would be one of them

A troll is a troll is a troll. The result is the same, no matter where it comes from. it's fun, but it's still trolling.

I could not find much video on the show, but it was a good one.

http://tv.msnbc.com/2013/02/07/feb-9-gloria-steinem-marlo-thomas-melissa-harris-perry/

EDIT: i'm also going to include folks who would purposefully Use language that they know will cause a storm, and no other purpose. I think the vast majority of DUers can unravel the whole schmeer. The jury system used to *mostly* prove that out. I miss not seeing the jury results for that reason.

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Online Bullying – a New and Ugly Sport for Liberal Commenters--The UK Guardian--Oct. 2012 [View all] Kurovski Mar 2013 OP

I think we need to reflect on what we do as a community more. Kurska Mar 2013 #1

I like how the author ended the article: Kurovski Mar 2013 #3

Very good end to the article and yeah that is a little funny bout the names. n/t Kurska Mar 2013 #5

Well said. n/t OneGrassRoot Mar 2013 #23

What I've noticed over the past year is a species of self-righteous mob behavior Hekate Mar 2013 #2

Or how about that old couple in Florida whose address was tweeted as being George Zimmerman's JVS Mar 2013 #4

Yes, that too. Those innocent people could have been killed. Hekate Mar 2013 #6

There's been plenty of self-righteous mob behavior right here on DU. n/t L0oniX Mar 2013 #65

Yes there is. nt Mojorabbit Mar 2013 #131

It is the reaction that must be expected when the rule of law has failed. JDPriestly Mar 2013 #102

If only we liberals were less mean, things could get done. bleever Mar 2013 #7

I only give up being mean for lent, so I should talk. Kurovski Mar 2013 #9

Yes. sibelian Mar 2013 #8

+10000 to that. MattSh Mar 2013 #21

Bringing it back home I am reminded of Meta... Demo_Chris Mar 2013 #10

It definitely could have applied to Meta. pacalo Mar 2013 #12

And to the current threads on the election of the new Pope Sherman A1 Mar 2013 #18

For sure! pacalo Mar 2013 #19

What I find disturbing Sherman A1 Mar 2013 #20

for reference RainDog Mar 2013 #106

Pope and Catholic are on my auto-hide list. UnrepentantLiberal Mar 2013 #44

I hide no one and nothing. Demo_Chris Mar 2013 #47

Do you feel a need to read the table of contents UnrepentantLiberal Mar 2013 #48

Point taken, but I am sure you understand mine as well Demo_Chris Mar 2013 #49

I do. UnrepentantLiberal Mar 2013 #50

After reading the OP, I thought meta also. HappyMe Mar 2013 #46

So, you're against self-righteousness?1! pacalo Mar 2013 #86

I'm probably on there. JDPriestly Mar 2013 #103

No, you aren't on my ignore list. HappyMe Mar 2013 #110

Sounds like a good idea. I didn't know you could do that. JDPriestly Mar 2013 #115

At the top right, click on HappyMe Mar 2013 #116

Absolutely get the red out Mar 2013 #52

yup, my reaction is to just trash the "privilege" threads quinnox Mar 2013 #11

I think I'm going to go back to trashing all threads related to rape. pacalo Mar 2013 #13

I feel the same way quinnox Mar 2013 #14

I started to wonder if I was one of the few who didn't get the super-secret memo about some pacalo Mar 2013 #15

you and me both quinnox Mar 2013 #17

This article is crap. mattclearing Mar 2013 #16

It's not about "telling some right-wing asshat that they benefit from privilege" muriel_volestrangler Mar 2013 #31

Perhaps. mattclearing Mar 2013 #70

Yep. Progressives being mean is a huge issue... desth threats, rape threats, and redqueen Mar 2013 #41

. UnrepentantLiberal Mar 2013 #45

Thanks. mattclearing Mar 2013 #72

It looks like an observation on the part of the author. I think she says so in the text. Kurovski Mar 2013 #100

I tend to agree with you wryter2000 Mar 2013 #54

Her vagueness seems to suit people just fine... redqueen Mar 2013 #66

Yep. mattclearing Mar 2013 #74

The tolerant of my intolerance argument occurred to me as well. mattclearing Mar 2013 #73

We have to point out insensitivity until people everywhere learn to express themselves in ways that sibelian Mar 2013 #75

That's ok. mattclearing Mar 2013 #95

Not everyone uses words with the same intent. Kurovski Mar 2013 #96

Agreed. mattclearing Mar 2013 #97

It's insane. Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #22

Here is one of the 446 comments I read. Kurovski Mar 2013 #24

Part of another comment: Kurovski Mar 2013 #25

It's very odd in that we are seeing an ever-widening gap between rich and poor Kurovski Mar 2013 #26

It's from half a year ago Turborama Mar 2013 #40

You are not alone in your observations... Old and In the Way Mar 2013 #56

A few weeks ago on "Up With Chris Hayes" Kurovski Mar 2013 #71

well said....a great article backwoodsbob Mar 2013 #27

I "quit" for many months because it seems ridiculous to argue with people I mostly agree with... KittyWampus Mar 2013 #58

One of the big ones: The Straight Story Mar 2013 #28

Pretty Much Explains... KharmaTrain Mar 2013 #29

Remember when DU didn't suck? TransitJohn Mar 2013 #30

I think META exposed well the dark side of DU The Straight Story Mar 2013 #32

Excellent article. 99Forever Mar 2013 #33

Interesting. I believe every responder to the OP up to this point is male. nt Zorra Mar 2013 #34

that has what to do with what exactly? backwoodsbob Mar 2013 #35

That's kind of the fault line that is being exploited here. Old and In the Way Mar 2013 #57

LOL RZM Mar 2013 #36

I read a lot. And the point is, I find it interesting that that Zorra Mar 2013 #38

Just as most that seem fixated on it seem to be or where raised upper class and white. TheKentuckian Mar 2013 #42

I find it interesting that you can be so sure of gender just by user names. yellowcanine Mar 2013 #55

User names actually have little or nothing to do with it, Zorra Mar 2013 #104

I think you are blowing smoke. yellowcanine Mar 2013 #111

maybe the fact this article quoted in the OP was written by a woman should be of interest then too quinnox Mar 2013 #37

That it is. nt Zorra Mar 2013 #39

Wow. You are better than me at figuring out someone's sex from their username (nt) Nye Bevan Mar 2013 #43

I'm sorry, I believe you are making somewhat irrelevant assumptions. nt Zorra Mar 2013 #105

You mean like the sex of the posters? (nt) The Straight Story Mar 2013 #108

Touche. pacalo Mar 2013 #125

It isn't true, and you could have checked it. Kurovski Mar 2013 #76

"It's an invitation to rumble." pacalo Mar 2013 #80

Please, allow me to spell it out for you. I'm sorry if my online technique of communicating may be Zorra Mar 2013 #107

I think you missed the crux of the OP and the problems people here on DU are having The Straight Story Mar 2013 #109

Yes, good points, but every day we see examples in the news of Zorra Mar 2013 #121

Well I say Thank You - for one of the better replies here The Straight Story Mar 2013 #122

You make a lot of assumptions about the motivations of other people. yellowcanine Mar 2013 #113

I spent an hour composing a response, and lost it with a finger slip. Gaaa! Kurovski Mar 2013 #119

Maybe some people just don't want to kick it. pintobean Mar 2013 #114

Imported meta from another site without any geek tragedy Mar 2013 #51

Want a good example? The outrage from many DU'ers when Southern Fried Chicken, Collards etc KittyWampus Mar 2013 #59

Sounds yummy. Just missing some BBQ and yams. nt geek tragedy Mar 2013 #60

Well, this Cracker ate/eats a lot of that under moss-draped oaks beside big breezy lakes. Eleanors38 Mar 2013 #61

Soul food doesn't care what color is the soul's body. GoCubsGo Mar 2013 #87

Heirloom peas w/ a little ham used to be cheap. Now you can't find 'em. Eleanors38 Mar 2013 #93

LMAO... your subject line cut off after 'chicken'... so I thought you were going to mention redqueen Mar 2013 #64

OMG, I remember that brou-ha-ha WolverineDG Mar 2013 #82

"Online bullying - a New and Ugly Sport for Liberal Commenters" yellowcanine Mar 2013 #53

I guess I'll be the first to mention liberals with guns. Eleanors38 Mar 2013 #62

Say what? yellowcanine Mar 2013 #63

Sorry for the crypnotic effect. Everyone was talking... Eleanors38 Mar 2013 #94

I knew what you meant. Kurovski Mar 2013 #98

I guess I didn't get it because I don't accept your premise. yellowcanine Mar 2013 #99

Well, great. I'm reassured that 2A advocates are just that, Eleanors38 Mar 2013 #101

To call asking for more regulation of guns "bullying" degrades the term. yellowcanine Mar 2013 #112

Don't buy your arguments in their face... Eleanors38 Mar 2013 #117

NRA is not irrelevant because "pro-2A" is an NRA talking point. yellowcanine Mar 2013 #118

Please. You are so tendentious; talk about cheapening the term "bully." Eleanors38 Mar 2013 #120

Nice - "I will end this conversation... good day." but BTW - here is 1 more dig. yellowcanine Mar 2013 #123

You try editing for flow & structure with a piece if crap smart phone. Eleanors38 Mar 2013 #126

It's cute how she acts ike lliberals are unique. redqueen Mar 2013 #67

Authors almost never create the titles of their articles. An editor does, Kurovski Mar 2013 #77

What a bunch of bullshit. Zoeisright Mar 2013 #68

Well that's just skipping around the issue, really isn't it? sibelian Mar 2013 #69

I think "Bullying" is overused and misused, but that's my opinion and I've lived long Kurovski Mar 2013 #79

Self-delete WilliamPitt Mar 2013 #78

I remember this guy on DU who posted about taking his favorite girl at the time out for an expensive KittyWampus Mar 2013 #81

Was that... Kurovski Mar 2013 #88

And if I remembered every slight, I'd be a ball of rage. WilliamPitt Mar 2013 #90

She's an author who has seen too many readers' comments derailing the subject matter pacalo Mar 2013 #83

here is what cshe says: Kurovski Mar 2013 #85

As a Meta survivor (heh), I found her observations were right on the money. pacalo Mar 2013 #89

She pretty much nailed Meta (nt) The Straight Story Mar 2013 #124

yep libodem Mar 2013 #128

Love your signature! pacalo Mar 2013 #129

I can't see it on my phone libodem Mar 2013 #130

it's about progressives bossing each other around. "More liberal than thou" Kurovski Mar 2013 #84

"Will, did you read too fast?" WilliamPitt Mar 2013 #91

OK "strong and silent" I think I see what you mean. Kurovski Mar 2013 #92

So the author wants more communication Rex Mar 2013 #127