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louis-t

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29. Not in AZ. The law there says you can buy for personal use, then

Tue Mar 26, 2013, 03:40 PM

Mar 2013

change your mind and sell to someone else. You can buy 100 guns, as long as you say they are for personal use, then change your mind and legally sell to someone else. This is why the ATF couldn't arrest straw buyers in AZ and why Fast and Furious failed.

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Gun shop blocks Mark Kelly�s right to buy AR-15, citing political �intent� [View all] kpete Mar 2013 OP

Huh? No matter the he has no right to own an AR-15 unless he is part of a well regulated militia.. bowens43 Mar 2013 #1

He is a part of a well regulated militia sarisataka Mar 2013 #4

I guess the government can't regulate guns, but some POS store owner in Tuscon can... joeybee12 Mar 2013 #2

Look at it this way. The USA has pharmacists that won't R. Daneel Olivaw Mar 2013 #6

You cannot deny someone their 2nd amendment rights based on political intent. Rex Mar 2013 #3

The gun shop owner has the right to do business with whomever he chooses as long as it is Purveyor Mar 2013 #5

Isn't it discrimination on political grounds? R. Daneel Olivaw Mar 2013 #13

You or anyone else is free to discriminate on political grounds. former9thward Mar 2013 #14

Do you have any court rulings that go with that? R. Daneel Olivaw Mar 2013 #21

This is a link to a law blog for employers. former9thward Mar 2013 #22

TY. Any form of discrimination anywhere should not be allowable. R. Daneel Olivaw Mar 2013 #24

Our society discriminates all the time between criminals that should be locked up and innocent AnotherMcIntosh Mar 2013 #53

Sure you can. Xithras Mar 2013 #7

Okay thanks, I had it backwards then. Rex Mar 2013 #8

"gun control advocate" is not a protected class cthulu2016 Mar 2013 #9

But the transaction already went through or so I thought. Rex Mar 2013 #10

You *can*, but you look like a hypocrite doing it. nt Robb Mar 2013 #11

Well at least this keeps the issue in the news. Rex Mar 2013 #12

After it became known that Kelly purchased this weapon ... former9thward Mar 2013 #15

Bullshit. Cite the law. Robb Mar 2013 #17

Destroying weapons is not buying them with the intent of turning them over to a 3rd party. former9thward Mar 2013 #18

He was purchasing it for himself. To use it. cthulu2016 Mar 2013 #19

No, that is not what he said. former9thward Mar 2013 #20

Well, if he announced a different intent later... Orsino Mar 2013 #25

Delusional paranoia. Robb Mar 2013 #26

I cited the law which is what you requested. former9thward Mar 2013 #32

For the validity of your interpretation, you might have cited the food pyramid. Robb Mar 2013 #33

The gun shop owner knew he was being set up. former9thward Mar 2013 #36

Laughable. Look up "prohibited person." Robb Mar 2013 #38

That is not what Form 4473 says. former9thward Mar 2013 #39

Completely incorrect. Good lord. Robb Mar 2013 #42

Do I think given the facts we know that Kelly would be indicted or convicted? former9thward Mar 2013 #45

If you can't even *define* "straw purchase" correctly, you shouldn't be selling guns. Robb Mar 2013 #46

From what I have read, AZ law says you can legally louis-t Mar 2013 #28

BS. It doesn't matter what AZ law says, straw purchases .... oldhippie Mar 2013 #30

Then why would the AZ US Attorney not allow the ATF to arrest louis-t Mar 2013 #47

The AZ US Attorney has what .... oldhippie Mar 2013 #49

Stating that I will do A does not deny my intent to do B, LanternWaste Mar 2013 #34

Seems like the ones who scream the loudest about gun rights... cynatnite Mar 2013 #16

Doesn't make sense treestar Mar 2013 #23

That is a "straw purchase" tularetom Mar 2013 #27

Not in AZ. The law there says you can buy for personal use, then louis-t Mar 2013 #29

Tell me again how Arizona law trumps Federal law ....... oldhippie Mar 2013 #31

Sorry, it was actually the Fortune Magazine article. louis-t Mar 2013 #48

Sorry, I have read none of the magazine articles .... oldhippie Mar 2013 #50

I'm back. Here's one of the links: louis-t Mar 2013 #51

Again, why does a US Attorney cite or care about AZ law? oldhippie Mar 2013 #54

I am not saying AZ laws trump federal laws. louis-t Mar 2013 #57

So why do you think ..... oldhippie Mar 2013 #58

How in hell can this be twisted in any way to be a straw purchase? baldguy Mar 2013 #40

Pretty easy, actually ..... oldhippie Mar 2013 #52

That's been answered above in this very thread: baldguy Mar 2013 #55

That's case law, not US Code ...... oldhippie Mar 2013 #56

Isint buying a gun with the intent to give it to a 3rd party textbook straw purchase? davepc Mar 2013 #35

Why don't you go and find out what a straw purchase actually is, and get back to us. baldguy Mar 2013 #43

Now if only he can do the same for the next "responsible" gun owner Rajesh Mar 2013 #37

So what about the pistol? Clames Mar 2013 #41

They just rooked him out of a great resale. ileus Mar 2013 #44