"90% of the guns in America are owned by White people in the suburbs."

[baldguy]

187. They are the same.

At least until the "simple gun owners" - especially those who claim to be any sort of liberal - show some light between their position and that of the crazy RW contingent, beyond mere rhetoric.

These "simple gun owners" say they "support" reasonable regulations. At least until those regulations actually come up for a vote. These "simple gun owners" say responsibility is important, but have no care when gun owners act irresponsibly, and they howl in protest when the majority wakes up and requires laws to force gun owners to act responsibly. These "simple gun owners" claim that they're not racist, but go on to complain about the "gang bangers", "urban youths" and "druggies", in short anyone they can cast as The Other whom they blame for all the urban gun violence America endures, at the same time they mock the people that must suffer through the same urban gun violence, whom they also can cast as The Other. These "simple gun owners" refuse to acknowledge the obvious connection between the ease of which they can access guns and the outrageous number of guns in circulation, with the prevalence of gun violence. These "simple gun owners" repeat the propaganda, misinformation and outright lies of the extremist RW crazies as Gospel Truth and endlessly defend it, in spite of the massive amounts of evidence proving those RW lies to be false. And when someone stands up to point out just how insane America's gun laws are, these "simple gun owners" attack that person, whether it's Michael Moore, or Rachel Maddow, or Andrew Cuomo, or Michael Bloomberg, or Diane Feinstein - or me.

For proof of any or all of this, just look at the responses in this thread.