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David Zephyr

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49. Thank you.

Wed Mar 27, 2013, 05:42 PM

Mar 2013

My companion and I have been together for over 35 years, but two drunk heterosexuals married by an Elvis impersonator in Las Vegas have more rights than we do. That's "moral" to all but 9 states in the U.S.

Without progressive heterosexuals like you, our little homosexual minority in the U.S would still be outlaws. Governor Jerry Brown was the first in America to "decriminalize" us in the 1970's. Imagine that.

I hold no hope for Justice Roberts. Today's DOMA arguments confirmed what I heard yesterday. He wants to desperately find a legal way to punish what he thinks is behavior rather than status. His repeated comments about how "successful" the "lobby" of LGBT Americans on American opinion were simply bizarre, gratuitous. I suggests that compassionate heterosexuals were hoodwinked and discredits their big understanding of the United States.

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You could be right - your prediction is not unreasonable - The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2013 #1

I made a similar comment in another thread - Ms. Toad Mar 2013 #4

Wise words. David Zephyr Mar 2013 #5

My take as a straight white male is that the supremes will do as little as possible. OffWithTheirHeads Mar 2013 #2

Because the rule is DON'T decide matters and cases which do not HAVE to be decided, elleng Mar 2013 #3

Yes, this. RudynJack Mar 2013 #8

Could be; elleng Mar 2013 #9

"Makes Gov. Dean's new venture more important." David Zephyr Mar 2013 #13

elleng, you're a treasure to this board Richardo Mar 2013 #47

Oh dear Richardo, thank you. elleng Mar 2013 #48

At least 6 to 3 to rule gay marriage flat out Constitutional Benton D Struckcheon Mar 2013 #6

Unfortunately, that isn't how constitutional law works. Ms. Toad Mar 2013 #10

Hmm. Question: Benton D Struckcheon Mar 2013 #12

No, not after Loving v. Virginia. elleng Mar 2013 #14

I have always loved that quote by Justice Stewart. DevonRex Mar 2013 #27

That is how it started out (it was a recognition across state boundaries issue) Ms. Toad Mar 2013 #16

OK, between you and elleng I am thoroughly confused Benton D Struckcheon Mar 2013 #18

elleng likely has a better summary of Loving Ms. Toad Mar 2013 #25

Cases based on sexual orientation are decided by applying the rational JDPriestly Mar 2013 #30

It is an interesting question Ms. Toad Mar 2013 #38

Right to the point. David Zephyr Mar 2013 #19

Oh, but that it was so easy...and fair...and just. David Zephyr Mar 2013 #20

Scalia, from a legal perspective, Ms. Toad Mar 2013 #7

Fascinating. Thanks for the insight, Ms. Toad Hekate Mar 2013 #17

From a human perspective, the view is a lot different. Moostache Mar 2013 #23

Scalia. Whenever he talks or writes at great length it is always bullshit. DevonRex Mar 2013 #28

True. I remember one opinion he wrote in which he avoided JDPriestly Mar 2013 #31

Have you spent much time reading his criminal law opinions? Ms. Toad Mar 2013 #39

From a biological stand point davidpdx Mar 2013 #40

You may be right about that one! n/t Ms. Toad Mar 2013 #41

Hi David! MuseRider Mar 2013 #11

Hearty hello and hug to you, MuseRider. David Zephyr Mar 2013 #21

Oh gosh David me too MuseRider Mar 2013 #42

Thank you for lending us your trained ear Hekate Mar 2013 #15

Remember. Roberts adopted his two children because he and his JDPriestly Mar 2013 #32

Thank you. David Zephyr Mar 2013 #49

As I think back, I believe that my first violin teacher was probably a JDPriestly Mar 2013 #50

Guess what? I agree with you. "Not a defeat, by any means." David Zephyr Mar 2013 #34

I am hoping for the best but, like you, I think they will not go all the way. nm rhett o rick Mar 2013 #22

I'll take the narrow ruling on this one. Let's hope for a better day tomorrow with DOMA. David Zephyr Mar 2013 #37

Maybe Why This Is So Hard Here colsohlibgal Mar 2013 #24

Actually, the problem here is not with the Puritans who settled in New JDPriestly Mar 2013 #33

"the U.S. got the Puritans". It's so funny and painfully true at the same time. David Zephyr Mar 2013 #35

The Prop 8 case gives the court an easy out. RandySF Mar 2013 #26

Wouldn't that invite more cases from more states? n/t moondust Mar 2013 #29

They will refuse to decide ArcticFox Mar 2013 #36

They just keep fighting to keep those blinders on! WinstonSmith4740 Mar 2013 #43

That's what I was thinking! rusty fender Mar 2013 #45

That would be an Insane Ruling Demeter Mar 2013 #44

Is it dusty in here or what? displacedtexan Mar 2013 #46