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napi21

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151. A dog's personality & behavior depend completely on their owner and

Thu Mar 28, 2013, 03:35 AM

Mar 2013

how they're trained and socialized. U grew up with my grandparents having a pitbull. His name was cotton because he was completely black with a little tuft of white fur on his chest. I barely remember when I was about 3, playing with Cotton, laying on him, hugging him as hard as I could then, and Cotton was just an easy going happy dog who never growled or backed away from any of us grandkids. I currently have a Bichon & a Lab. Both were raised in a loving manner and socialized at a very young age, and now that they're older (7 & 13) they have no problem with anyone. I've many times said the Bichon will lick you to fdeath, and the lab meets visitors at the door with a toy in her mouth, just wanting to play all the time. There are people who buy Pitbulls for no other reason by to train them to be a junk yard dog. Umfprtunately, those are the ones who make the news and people's opinions.

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If you believe Pit Bulls are inherently dangerous animals, & you support BSL to ban them [View all] baldguy Mar 2013 OP

Du rec. Nt xchrom Mar 2013 #1

I know better Ron Obvious Mar 2013 #2

My son had a caregiver who had a pit bull kimbutgar Mar 2013 #40

Thank you for this, baldguy! smokey nj Mar 2013 #3

Why do we see so many stories about pit bulls killing children and attacking others? upaloopa Mar 2013 #4

Media reports are often inaccurate. baldguy Mar 2013 #5

Then there was the Golden Retriever that chewed the kid's legs off. DollarBillHines Mar 2013 #8

Quite simply, I do not believe you. Bonobo Mar 2013 #38

I was mistaken, the kid was in a swing and the dog was a lab/Golden mix DollarBillHines Mar 2013 #42

Occasionally a man DOES bite a dog, I guess. nt Bonobo Mar 2013 #48

A truly horrible story DollarBillHines Mar 2013 #73

Bonobo you are right & unfortunately it is people who made the pit bulls this way. However, it is EV_Ares Mar 2013 #54

It plays into the image so the story will get play time. sibelian Mar 2013 #150

Here is my Little Pit Bull Robbie.... Walk away Mar 2013 #6

Awwwwwww! smokey nj Mar 2013 #9

Awesome. pintobean Mar 2013 #13

What a doll! I have three (but only one Mini Pit) Walk away Mar 2013 #25

Great stuff. I watched several. nt pintobean Mar 2013 #32

He is freakin' adorable!! narnian60 Mar 2013 #63

Such a cute dog! nomorenomore08 Mar 2013 #157

Then you don't know anything about Pit Bulls. Or dogs Flashmann Mar 2013 #7

Pitbulls like any other dogs,are only vicious when trained to be that way. loyalsister Mar 2013 #29

I think he is not alone. Flashmann Mar 2013 #45

It is pretty sick really loyalsister Mar 2013 #97

Is it a myth that 60% plus of Americans killed by dogs are killed by pit bulls, which are 5% of Donald Ian Rankin Mar 2013 #10

Yes. baldguy Mar 2013 #17

No its not true Drale Mar 2013 #19

Yes it is true mimi85 Mar 2013 #96

Links? baldguy Mar 2013 #106

Here are statistics from the CDC whopis01 Mar 2013 #160

Of course you know about the various problems with the methodology of that report? baldguy Mar 2013 #161

LOL OwnedByCats Mar 2013 #128

What's your reason for believing that, please? I worry that it may be confirmation bias. Donald Ian Rankin Mar 2013 #152

You know which dogs are considered the most dangerous and vicious, especially to their owners? TrogL Mar 2013 #11

Vicious, perhaps, but dangerous? Donald Ian Rankin Mar 2013 #12

Pit Bulls are actually friendlier than most dogs by nature. Rotts are extremely loving too. appleannie1 Mar 2013 #14

I love that vet's quote narnian60 Mar 2013 #64

Dog Poop. Craven Desires and the Truth about frankenmaulers (pit bulls) JanMichael Mar 2013 #15

A bigot twice over. baldguy Mar 2013 #21

Three times by my count Drale Mar 2013 #53

never mind the bigotry waddirum Mar 2013 #114

That's what I was thinking! tavalon Mar 2013 #134

I am not sure if you are aware of this, but pansies is a derogatory term for La Lioness Priyanka Mar 2013 #132

you are right; I wasn't thinking JanMichael Mar 2013 #154

i do what i can La Lioness Priyanka Mar 2013 #164

we should require licenses muse03 Mar 2013 #16

As a dog owner and a friend of bully breeds, I would be A-OK with that. nt Ed Suspicious Mar 2013 #23

+1000. There are some people that just shouldn't be allowed anywhere near dogs. baldguy Mar 2013 #34

As a pit bull owner, I would be cool with that. Lucky Luciano Mar 2013 #58

+1000 narnian60 Mar 2013 #65

Absolutely get the red out Mar 2013 #155

Absolutely OwnedByCats Mar 2013 #129

I was attacked by a dog when I was three abelenkpe Mar 2013 #18

Rec. secondvariety Mar 2013 #20

Mixed dogs superior genetically ErikJ Mar 2013 #22

+1 baldguy Mar 2013 #28

Yay! So wonderful to see your posts after the haters got me depressed. Lucky Luciano Mar 2013 #61

+1,000,000 narnian60 Mar 2013 #67

I've got 2 PitBunnies that will rip a carrot to shreds. It's a terrible sight to see. BlueJazz Mar 2013 #24

Me too! Liberal Jesus Freak Mar 2013 #31

Thank you for bringing some science to counter the morass of inaccurate folk lore. Scuba Mar 2013 #26

Rec' ed for refuting a bunch of myths about pits War Horse Mar 2013 #27

A while back it was posted that all gun owners have blood on their hands. I am sure you remember it. ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2013 #30

30,000 gun deaths per yr vs 20 deaths due to dogs per yr. There's no comparison. baldguy Mar 2013 #33

Actually they are conceptually the same ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2013 #35

No, they are not conceptually the same in any way. baldguy Mar 2013 #47

I'm ticked off from scrolling, but laughing too. Good job. Hoyt Mar 2013 #92

Shut him up, too. baldguy Mar 2013 #102

Would you be so kind Boudica the Lyoness Apr 2013 #170

Oh wow, I thought OwnedByCats Mar 2013 #133

<3 Starry Messenger Mar 2013 #139

Now, take all your X's and The Straight Story Mar 2013 #148

The Zs are irrelevant, although the Ys are not Donald Ian Rankin Mar 2013 #153

epic Demo_Chris Mar 2013 #169

I've been bitten by dogs three times. Demobrat Mar 2013 #36

Explain to the families of dead children Tribalceltic Mar 2013 #37

And just who was the canine genetics & behavior expert who identified the breed of that dog? baldguy Mar 2013 #68

The dog was akc registered and was bought for breeding Tribalceltic Mar 2013 #84

Not according to the news account *you* linked to in *your* post. baldguy Mar 2013 #89

if it was AKC registered, why do they refer to it "Pit bull mix" several times? uppityperson Mar 2013 #100

Well OwnedByCats Mar 2013 #135

+1000-Remember the innocent victims! The Pit Bull Victims Foundation Inc. ErikJ Mar 2013 #72

I knew a pit bull once.... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #39

Thanks for posting this... Kalidurga Mar 2013 #41

So then, apparently what's needed are mandatory background checks for pit bull owners. Llewlladdwr Mar 2013 #43

Mandatory training for dog owners, licensing & registration, baldguy Mar 2013 #49

Those are all good... Llewlladdwr Mar 2013 #52

Licensing & registration should apply to any dog. And to anyone obtaining a dog, anywhere. baldguy Mar 2013 #56

So why are you opposed to mandatory background checks? Llewlladdwr Mar 2013 #60

Read these and see some disturbing facts moonbeam23 Mar 2013 #44

DogsBite.org is full of lies & deliberate misinformation. baldguy Mar 2013 #51

People who allow their dogs to attack others shouldn't suffer legal consequences? nt Llewlladdwr Mar 2013 #55

No, of course they need to be held responsible. baldguy Mar 2013 #62

I agree with DogsBite.org. Llewlladdwr Mar 2013 #66

I've already agreed that ownershio should be regulated. baldguy Mar 2013 #75

Why is it unacceptable? Llewlladdwr Mar 2013 #78

Common sense? OwnedByCats Mar 2013 #138

That seems to be the thinking regarding some things in society. Llewlladdwr Mar 2013 #140

It's a slippery slope OwnedByCats Mar 2013 #144

stupid owners should be outlawed, for sure, but mopinko Mar 2013 #46

So many strawmen you could not plant a field to use up all the shit aandegoons Mar 2013 #50

It really amazes me how all the pit bull haters Drale Mar 2013 #69

So we should do nothing and just stand by while children die? Llewlladdwr Mar 2013 #83

You sir are sounding more and more trollish with every post Drale Mar 2013 #86

Thank you sir, but I'm more orc than troll. Llewlladdwr Mar 2013 #90

You know, this problem we have with people thinking OwnedByCats Mar 2013 #141

Post count means nothing moonbeam23 Mar 2013 #85

My only problem with Pit Bulls BootinUp Mar 2013 #57

They also fart alot Drale Mar 2013 #71

I know. baldguy Mar 2013 #77

someone should inform California of this PatrynXX Mar 2013 #59

I think people didn't want the parolees. Lucky Luciano Mar 2013 #74

Wasn't just about the parolees OwnedByCats Mar 2013 #142

well.... PatrynXX Mar 2013 #168

i'm not really a dog person keroro gunsou Mar 2013 #70

Remember the Innocent Victims! ErikJ Mar 2013 #76

80,000,000 dogs; average 20 deaths per year. baldguy Mar 2013 #80

Weres the page to remember the victums of bee deaths? Drale Mar 2013 #81

Experience ErikJ Mar 2013 #87

You're one of the people that cause dog aggression, and shouldn't be allowed near canines. baldguy Mar 2013 #91

I have great dogs. ErikJ Mar 2013 #94

I have no doubt. But if they're good dogs, that's due to *them*, not you. baldguy Mar 2013 #105

Seen it with many dogs ErikJ Mar 2013 #107

Boy, you must OwnedByCats Mar 2013 #147

Woman is bitten by a neighbor's aggressive pit bull as it was attacking her cat ErikJ Mar 2013 #149

Do you live in Oklahoma City? OwnedByCats Mar 2013 #165

Agreed. But those dogs most likely won't rip your dick off joeglow3 Mar 2013 #166

The most inherently dangerous animal of all time is Humans. gordianot Mar 2013 #79

there are no bad dogs..just bad owners madrchsod Mar 2013 #82

I have a better idea Trajan Mar 2013 #88

But should the person on the other side of town with an unrelated animal be punished also? baldguy Mar 2013 #93

The community has the right to restrict, or even ban ownership of dangerous breeds of dog. Llewlladdwr Mar 2013 #98

That's not being responsible. It's the OPPOSITE of responsible. baldguy Mar 2013 #101

It's not about punishment. Llewlladdwr Mar 2013 #103

It's not just the deaths moonbeam23 Mar 2013 #95

You're blaming Pit Bulls for *all* the aggression problems from *all* dogs. baldguy Mar 2013 #99

of the deaths by dog mauling/bite, a huge % are pit bulls. OregonBlue Mar 2013 #104

Don't just repeat the numbers from the Wikipedia page. baldguy Mar 2013 #110

I know someone who has a OwnedByCats Mar 2013 #145

Breed specific legislation Jenoch Mar 2013 #108

A gun can't be trained not to bite. A gun can't be socialized not to kill. baldguy Mar 2013 #111

A gun can't do *anything* without a person to wield it. Llewlladdwr Mar 2013 #112

A properly trained & socialized dog doesn't cause any problems with anybody. baldguy Mar 2013 #113

That's just silly. Llewlladdwr Mar 2013 #115

You're deliberately misrepresenting what I've posted. baldguy Mar 2013 #116

In what way? Llewlladdwr Mar 2013 #122

But there is always OwnedByCats Mar 2013 #146

You do realize that Jenoch Mar 2013 #117

But anyone can pick it up and use it to kill. baldguy Mar 2013 #118

Dogs, especially aggresive breeds, Jenoch Mar 2013 #119

Which part of "properly trained & socialized" do you not understand? baldguy Mar 2013 #123

The part where it can't be falsified? nt Llewlladdwr Mar 2013 #124

Which part of "properly trained & socialized" do you not understand? Every part, apparently. baldguy Mar 2013 #126

I confess that I'm not understanding how you're using the term. Llewlladdwr Mar 2013 #136

Which part of Jenoch Mar 2013 #131

I regret I can only give this one rec. Stinky The Clown Mar 2013 #109

Well, they do seem to have more than fair share of 'bad' owners. Zax2me Mar 2013 #120

Thanks very much for this OwnedByCats Mar 2013 #121

Question: Is it possible for a "properly trained and socialized" dog to lose it's status? Llewlladdwr Mar 2013 #125

Looking for pointers? Planning on torturing any puppies in the near future? baldguy Mar 2013 #127

Geez dude, you're losing it. Llewlladdwr Mar 2013 #130

wow. that's unwarranted La Lioness Priyanka Mar 2013 #137

The poster is trying to create a false equivalence between dog aggression and gun violence. baldguy Mar 2013 #162

I like cheese. progressoid Mar 2013 #143

What kind of cheese? (nt) The Straight Story Mar 2013 #156

A dog's personality & behavior depend completely on their owner and napi21 Mar 2013 #151

LOL, Pit Bulls. Iggo Mar 2013 #158

Yeah, nothing wrong with confiscating and killing people's beloved pets. nomorenomore08 Mar 2013 #159

true that La Lioness Priyanka Mar 2013 #163

I'm torn about this issue. Evoman Mar 2013 #167