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Nuclear Unicorn

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96. Except you don't think society has a say because everytime political pressure

Thu Mar 28, 2013, 08:57 AM

Mar 2013

builds to NOT affect gun control -- especially gun confiscation -- you complain the system is rigged or there's a gun culture. You arbitrarily disqualify any result you do not approve of. And even if society did support a ban on guns you would be wrong in your insistence there is no inherent right to self-defense.

Someday, maybe you can discuss why you are so concerned about protecting yourself with guns.

There's no need to wait; I'll have that discussion here and now.

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Hunters Begin Boycott Over Colorado Gun Laws [View all] Peter cotton Mar 2013 OP

Fuck them...if they can't see the need for such legislation they can go joeybee12 Mar 2013 #1

+1 ellisonz Mar 2013 #61

lol @ "hunting" Earth_First Mar 2013 #2

With staff to recover the animal, dress, prepare and cook it... Archaic Mar 2013 #15

This ought to be good for Colorado. Will be safer and have more game. nt kelliekat44 Mar 2013 #99

I don't know any hunters who will be offended by Colorado's gun laws .... Scuba Mar 2013 #3

Pretty worthless hunters if they need a 30 round magazine to shoot a deer. Good riddance. denverbill Mar 2013 #4

Today's stealth super-deers are not your grandfather's deer. onehandle Mar 2013 #5

30-round magazines have NEVER been legal for hunting in Colorado. You should know that. slackmaster Mar 2013 #10

Post removed Post removed Mar 2013 #14

Numerous gun nutters on DU have said that hunters use assault weapons and big mags kestrel91316 Mar 2013 #21

Only for hunting varmints. slackmaster Mar 2013 #30

Arizona does not restrict magazine capacity for hunting. It also allows suppressors (silencers) Peter cotton Mar 2013 #38

Are you sure? sl8 Mar 2013 #100

It's a very recent change, it only took effect last year. Peter cotton Mar 2013 #111

Thank you. n/t sl8 Mar 2013 #112

yep. my old man used a bolt action 30-30. frylock Mar 2013 #31

Assault weapons are fairly popular for small game. Big magazines are usually illegal for hunting Recursion Mar 2013 #44

The states I have hunted in limit magazine size for game animals as well pediatricmedic Mar 2013 #57

Both Texas and Arizona allow you to hunt with any number of rounds in the magazine. Peter cotton Mar 2013 #60

Less hunting pressure will equal more game ... Botany Mar 2013 #6

Sure hope the animals are participating in the boycott as well bullwinkle428 Mar 2013 #7

Yay otohara Mar 2013 #8

Think I'll be vacationing in Colorado. Won't have to risk being shot sinkingfeeling Mar 2013 #9

The new laws have no effect at all on what kinds of weapons that people can use for hunting. slackmaster Mar 2013 #12

Uhh, if hunters are boycotting Colorado... sadbear Mar 2013 #17

Do you believe they're all going to boycott Colorado, and that nobody who lives there will hunt? slackmaster Mar 2013 #27

Of course not. sadbear Mar 2013 #34

I see nothing hypocritical in boycotting a state that infringes on peoples' civil rights. slackmaster Mar 2013 #36

It would hypocritical if they called for a boycott, but didn't actually boycott. sadbear Mar 2013 #37

People on both sides of every recent Presidential election have said they'd leave the country... slackmaster Mar 2013 #39

So you think it's a bullshit bluff, too, then? sadbear Mar 2013 #41

Sure, in some cases slackmaster Mar 2013 #42

Sorry, guns aren't a "civil right." Hoyt Mar 2013 #40

Neither is a computer. Peter cotton Mar 2013 #45

Defense is not a civil right either. Gun crowd tries hard to equate their poor, pitiful gun plight Hoyt Mar 2013 #53

I think those who argue that people don't have a right to self-defense should be ashamed. Peter cotton Mar 2013 #55

Not necessarily with a gun you don't. Hoyt Mar 2013 #66

What are we supposed to use? Peter cotton Mar 2013 #67

You sound so pitiful asking that question. Jeebus, there are lots of ways beside guns. Hoyt Mar 2013 #70

So what should a senior citizen (just as an example) use? Peter cotton Mar 2013 #71

Are you a senior citizen who considers themselves prey? Hoyt Mar 2013 #73

I'm not a senior citizen (yet), but I'm starting to get up there in age; as for being prey... Peter cotton Mar 2013 #75

First, senior citizens are often on meds that alter judgement. Hoyt Mar 2013 #78

So are screenwriters. N/T beevul Mar 2013 #88

I've had good luck with this, until things escalated. bluedigger Mar 2013 #95

So why do we have police, courts and prisons? Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2013 #68

One of many reasons -To keep those with guns from playing jesus, judge, jury, and executioner. Hoyt Mar 2013 #69

Except owning a gun is not illegal and never has been except in rare cases. Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2013 #72

Lots of things are legal, but best left undone. I think society has a say. Hoyt Mar 2013 #89

Except you don't think society has a say because everytime political pressure Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2013 #96

Fine -- why do you live in fear of needing a gun(s)? Hoyt Mar 2013 #97

What fear? When I put my seat-belt on I'm not in fear of a car accident. Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2013 #98

Where do you live, Syria? IveWornAHundredPants Mar 2013 #110

Well said. (nt) Paladin Mar 2013 #113

and just what infringement of a 'civil right' might that be? COLGATE4 Mar 2013 #64

The right to keep and bear arms. Something explicitly mentioned in the Constitution, unlike... slackmaster Mar 2013 #65

Where is the 'infringement' of that civil right? COLGATE4 Mar 2013 #74

A reduction in choices available to the individual constitutes an infringement. slackmaster Mar 2013 #83

Nope. Not in the law, anyway. COLGATE4 Mar 2013 #87

Regulation isn't infringement. An outright BAN is. slackmaster Mar 2013 #102

It's only a regulation as to how many rounds COLGATE4 Mar 2013 #103

Nonsense. It's a ban on importating or selling magazines that can hold more than the limit. slackmaster Mar 2013 #104

Well, you know the saying that 'everyone is COLGATE4 Mar 2013 #106

A ban is a ban. Even machine guns aren't banned at the federal level. slackmaster Mar 2013 #109

OK. If you say so... COLGATE4 Mar 2013 #114

DC v. Heller and McDonald v. Chicago both found handgun bans to be unconstitutional. :-) slackmaster Mar 2013 #115

Are you really trying to argue that banning certain magazines COLGATE4 Mar 2013 #117

Do you have any rational explanation of why it's not the same thing? slackmaster Mar 2013 #118

Other than to point out the painfully COLGATE4 Mar 2013 #121

So tell us which SCOTUS ruling has said as such. brentspeak Mar 2013 #90

Too easy. Please see reply #115. slackmaster Mar 2013 #116

Nope. brentspeak Mar 2013 #120

Militia don't for get your right to be in a well upaloopa Mar 2013 #82

They're not going to be there if they're boycotting the state. sinkingfeeling Mar 2013 #50

Hunting is a sport. Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2013 #11

The magazine capacity limit for deer hunting with rifles in Colorado has always been five rounds slackmaster Mar 2013 #13

Deer hunters use rifles out West. Shotguns are for forest hunting of whitetails in the East. kestrel91316 Mar 2013 #22

I don't think shotguns are used much in CO for deer hunting. MineralMan Mar 2013 #24

Yeah, at least in MS we only ever used shotguns for rabbits and various birds Recursion Mar 2013 #46

While buckshot is still occasionally used for deer hunting, its primary purpose these days Peter cotton Mar 2013 #47

or a Helicopter otohara Mar 2013 #43

Feral hogs all need to be killed off NickB79 Mar 2013 #48

This Wasn't About Ridding Texas of Ferrel Pigs otohara Mar 2013 #49

This is mainly for eradication of hogs for farmers, and Eleanors38 Mar 2013 #92

Hog control weaponry has gone over to semi-auto rifles... Eleanors38 Mar 2013 #91

Wow, the good news keeps rolling in for Colorado. sadbear Mar 2013 #16

Is there some downside to this? 99Forever Mar 2013 #18

Don't let the door hit your butt on the way out. nt bemildred Mar 2013 #19

Gun nuts leaving Colorado? As if I needed any more incentive to move there... Erose999 Mar 2013 #20

Fewer gun nuts and *that referendum* from last November Kolesar Mar 2013 #29

Deer and Elk Applaud Madly! MineralMan Mar 2013 #23

I hate hunting, so I applaud along with the deer and elk. n/t RebelOne Mar 2013 #62

good riddance n/t librechik Mar 2013 #25

This is actually very good news Tempest Mar 2013 #26

When I lived in CO we locals were never terribly impressed by the folks who kestrel91316 Mar 2013 #28

There's a rivalry between Colorado and Texas going back to the Civil War Kolesar Mar 2013 #33

Colorado should advertise...more game and safer experience for real hunters Fresh_Start Mar 2013 #32

i thought that gun fuckers hated the fudds? frylock Mar 2013 #35

By definition, if they care about detachable magazine, they are not Fudds. aikoaiko Mar 2013 #56

Fantastic! What unexpectedly good "fallout...!" villager Mar 2013 #51

Except they're not. Robb Mar 2013 #52

Your link to the Magpul story doesn't say they're keeping their non-magazine operations in Colorado. Peter cotton Mar 2013 #54

"Hunters across the country are now boycotting Colorado because of the recent legislation." WilliamPitt Mar 2013 #58

and Colorado wildlife does a mass high-5 SoCalDem Mar 2013 #59

Awesome. Having lived and hunted here in CO, I have never been impressed with Autumn Mar 2013 #63

I'll really miss following their clapped out RVs on the highway. bluedigger Mar 2013 #76

Magpul or marijuana? Peter cotton Mar 2013 #77

Ha! bluedigger Mar 2013 #81

Good soon you won't have anywhere to go upaloopa Mar 2013 #79

Fewer "slob hunters", more game for Colorado hunters. . . DinahMoeHum Mar 2013 #80

And Colorado wildlife jumps for joy. nt frogmarch Mar 2013 #84

OMG! Fewer jerks drinking our beer, smoking our dope and leaving their shells behind? politicat Mar 2013 #85

Great. Now hikers and mountain climbers and wilderness lovers that don't have to worry bluestate10 Mar 2013 #86

YES!!!!!111!!1! Phillip McCleod Mar 2013 #93

gawd i love your posts everybody. Phillip McCleod Mar 2013 #94

Well, there are always drones... KansDem Mar 2013 #101

For other reasons, Colorado is looking at a bannner year for tourism bhikkhu Mar 2013 #105

Good. ellie Mar 2013 #107

In the home of the aurora shooting..... musical_soul Mar 2013 #108

That is fantastic! Congrats Colorado! morningfog Mar 2013 #119