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mike_c

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57. I haven't a clue, but is that really a bad thing...?

Thu Feb 2, 2012, 03:02 PM

Feb 2012

I mean, if they're succeeding academically and reaching parity with males in training, but then CHOOSE to pursue other options afterward, might it be that women regard their career paths differently than men? Again, I don't have a clue, but I think you're asking a very good question. I don't know about exclusion-- I can only speak for my experience in academic life science departments, where EVERY personnel search committee I've ever sat on has had a strong pro-female, pro-minority bias, so I don't think the academy is excluding women from STEM disciplines, unless my experience is grossly atypical. That certainly happened in the past, but I don't see any remnants of gender exclusion in academic hiring today. Not in the CSU.

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Boys need encouragement to be scientists - what do you think? [View all] Ms. Toad Feb 2012 OP

he missed the point warrior1 Feb 2012 #1

He, the LTTE writer Ms. Toad Feb 2012 #2

What about the boys?! Patrick_Bateman Feb 2012 #3

It seems like it has been a long time since you have been to high school AngryAmish Feb 2012 #4

My daughter, who graduated in 2008 Ms. Toad Feb 2012 #5

Anecdote is not data. AngryAmish Feb 2012 #7

Relatively speaking, Ms. Toad Feb 2012 #9

An anecdote is but a single data point. But it is data. txlibdem Feb 2012 #30

I had the same thought - Ms. Toad Feb 2012 #32

That's why you're the smarter one txlibdem Feb 2012 #43

Nah... Ms. Toad Feb 2012 #45

Here's a good source or data: bhikkhu Feb 2012 #53

All true. txlibdem Feb 2012 #6

+1 Ms. Toad Feb 2012 #18

I feel that students don't know what they want until later in life txlibdem Feb 2012 #31

My theory is - Ms. Toad Feb 2012 #33

I like your theory but it wouldn't work for me. txlibdem Feb 2012 #47

Not that much different than my memory. Ms. Toad Feb 2012 #49

Blue Collar Greatness FrodosPet Feb 2012 #48

Graduated in 1978. Patrick_Bateman Feb 2012 #8

The medical specialties dominated by women are generally not as well paid Ms. Toad Feb 2012 #12

This surprises me little n/t Patrick_Bateman Feb 2012 #13

I have seen discussions of salaries decreasing in specialties Ms. Toad Feb 2012 #16

Thank you. Patrick_Bateman Feb 2012 #19

Really? redqueen Feb 2012 #17

I was mostly ignoring DU yesterday entirely. Ms. Toad Feb 2012 #22

Ms Toad Patrick_Bateman Feb 2012 #10

Thanks! n/t Ms. Toad Feb 2012 #35

BOTH boy and girls--we should be celebrating participation in science with the same gusto we do for dembotoz Feb 2012 #11

Yay DI! Ms. Toad Feb 2012 #20

Both boys and girls should be encouraged to be scientists if they have the ability and interest FarCenter Feb 2012 #14

Thanks for the reply to the caption. Ms. Toad Feb 2012 #15

Most engineering specialties are still over 90% male Nikia Feb 2012 #23

That's why my professional meetings are 90% male... Ms. Toad Feb 2012 #26

I, too, work in a field that requires science or engineering degrees etherealtruth Feb 2012 #38

The coverage was clearly of the "encourage girls to take up science" genre FarCenter Feb 2012 #24

As near as I can tell - Ms. Toad Feb 2012 #27

I have a PhD in the biomedical sciences momto3 Feb 2012 #37

So - is the solution Ms. Toad Feb 2012 #39

These are very difficult questions to ask. momto3 Feb 2012 #54

Thanks for your thoughtful response. Ms. Toad Feb 2012 #55

Quite a thought provoking piece. redqueen Feb 2012 #21

Only if they aren't adept at toting a pigskin raouldukelives Feb 2012 #25

There is that, of course... Ms. Toad Feb 2012 #34

An odd split showing up in the stats the last few years Spike89 Feb 2012 #28

Fulfilling - yes; lucrative - sometimes; but "fun"? - likely to be a disappointment. FarCenter Feb 2012 #29

Women have been doing all of those things since time immemorial. EFerrari Feb 2012 #36

To be fair, they mostly haven't been doing so Ms. Toad Feb 2012 #40

I was speaking to the skill set in the post, not about those fields. nt EFerrari Feb 2012 #41

That's why I pointed out that even if the skillset was familiar Ms. Toad Feb 2012 #42

Right but that has nothing to do with women, which was one implication EFerrari Feb 2012 #50

I am a scientist, a toxicologist to be exact. Drahthaardogs Feb 2012 #44

It is really sad that it has not changed much since I earned my physics & math degree Ms. Toad Feb 2012 #46

I'm a biologist... mike_c Feb 2012 #51

Yeah, this is the disconnect I was speaking of Spike89 Feb 2012 #56

I haven't a clue, but is that really a bad thing...? mike_c Feb 2012 #57

Techies get no respect Mopar151 Feb 2012 #52