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124. Sugar in what form? Sucrose? Fructose? Glucose?

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Thu Feb 2, 2012, 02:15 PM

Feb 2012

The idiots proposing to restrict 'sugar' will have their hands full trying to figure out which is the most toxic, and how much should be allowed.

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Scientists say sugar is as toxic as alcohol – and there should be a drinking age for soda [View all] The Straight Story Feb 2012 OP

I think we should all be locked up and fed what the experts want us to eat DJ13 Feb 2012 #1

Or just live in a bubble HockeyMom Feb 2012 #3

That's what Fox News is for. *rimshot* Initech Feb 2012 #10

It's not about being afraid to live. renie408 Feb 2012 #12

No, this is about legislating what people choose to eat The Genealogist Feb 2012 #51

Jack the taxes up on sugar and create another black market! FrodosPet Feb 2012 #74

Excellent! Regressive taxes like that are awesome! PVnRT Feb 2012 #89

I would like you to check these stats nadinbrzezinski Feb 2012 #99

Let's try sugar and forget the fucking corn syrup. Autumn Feb 2012 #2

Yes high fructose corn syrup is to be avoided madokie Feb 2012 #8

There is sugar in EVERYTHING. Sugar has no redeeming value nutritionally, but they'll never gateley Feb 2012 #4

Of course not RZM Feb 2012 #32

Thanks for the interesting history. I try to stay away from Coke, too, but when gateley Feb 2012 #63

Pepsi marketed a real sugar version a few years ago RZM Feb 2012 #65

Yeah, well I don't need to find them! Besides, I was a Coke snob (although I did try the Pepsi gateley Feb 2012 #73

and they tasted a hell of a lot better and didn't have the aftertaste of the regular kind. Occulus Feb 2012 #107

There's a big difference in flavor hifiguy Feb 2012 #110

Unintended consequences: switching kids to Splenda & NutraSweet qb Feb 2012 #5

Or, better yet... drink water and/or juices. Luminous Animal Feb 2012 #7

Water tases "Blecch!" FrodosPet Feb 2012 #75

I love water. I've started having a pitcher of cucumber water in the fridge... Luminous Animal Feb 2012 #81

Our tap water has too much chlorine in it. FrodosPet Feb 2012 #82

Why don't you get a filter? After the initial investment... Luminous Animal Feb 2012 #83

Thank you. I'm sure it would help. FrodosPet Feb 2012 #85

Sparkling water Dorian Gray Feb 2012 #91

You can make your own under the sink system. Luminous Animal Feb 2012 #127

I didn't see where it said you should switch to Splenda or Nutrasweet. renie408 Feb 2012 #14

That's not what these folks are saying. HuckleB Feb 2012 #30

Damn fine question there Autumn Feb 2012 #138

... but the reason we restrict alcohol to minors has nothing to do with toxicity. surrealAmerican Feb 2012 #6

and sugar is not as toxic as alcohol anyways. It just isn't. Johonny Feb 2012 #100

There is no way that your numbers are right. JVS Feb 2012 #102

The correct numbers are 1000 times lower. former9thward Feb 2012 #116

It is definitely addicting Marrah_G Feb 2012 #9

Dr. Atkins was telling people this for decades. Odin2005 Feb 2012 #11

Not exactly. HuckleB Feb 2012 #38

Following the Atkins diet is just as unhealthy long term. TheWraith Feb 2012 #46

Sugar is actually a nutrient that the body needs in order to survive, unlike alcohol and tobacco. Crunchy Frog Feb 2012 #13

Your body doesn't need sugar. renie408 Feb 2012 #15

Our ancient ancestors didn't live very long, so I don't think they are a very convincing example. nt ZombieHorde Feb 2012 #19

Their life expectancy wasn't limited because they didn't have access to refined sugar. renie408 Feb 2012 #21

I am not defending anything, I was attacking your argument strictly on tactical issues. ZombieHorde Feb 2012 #35

well it is not Wednesday hfojvt Feb 2012 #59

And now you know how smokers feel. trof Feb 2012 #132

well with a few huge ginormous differences hfojvt Feb 2012 #142

Are you saying that our ancient ancestors didn't eat carbs? Crunchy Frog Feb 2012 #48

Lustig's is very clear about the fructose being a poison Paulie Feb 2012 #76

There are sugars Dorian Gray Feb 2012 #92

I need it when my blood sugar goes too low but I am a diabetic. Jennicut Feb 2012 #101

Yes, it does IDemo Feb 2012 #122

yes BUT there is no dietary need for added sweetening in most foods.... mike_c Feb 2012 #16

Ok, his sounds better than mine, but its the same idea. n/t renie408 Feb 2012 #18

I find it interesting that you treat one of the most natural foods in the world--honey, the same as niyad Feb 2012 #22

The sugar ratios of honey and HFCS are virtually identical. Ms. Toad Feb 2012 #25

and one is completely natural, and one isn't niyad Feb 2012 #27

Sugar content is sugar content Ms. Toad Feb 2012 #44

Crude Oil is natural MattBaggins Feb 2012 #96

Don't forget that "natural", tobacco NNN0LHI Feb 2012 #97

I don't think he mans it's the same, just that there is no specific dietary need for either. renie408 Feb 2012 #26

honey is an interesting case.... mike_c Feb 2012 #39

Well, shit. renie408 Feb 2012 #40

And...? HuckleB Feb 2012 #42

I love stevia! Odin2005 Feb 2012 #56

Good for you. HuckleB Feb 2012 #57

I like it too... mike_c Feb 2012 #64

That sounds like a lot of work. HuckleB Feb 2012 #67

It tastes ohheckyeah Feb 2012 #79

I like it too Dorian Gray Feb 2012 #93

the primary difference between honey and HFCS... mike_c Feb 2012 #43

Try having unsweetened coffee muriel_volestrangler Feb 2012 #86

Strange thing about honey xmas74 Feb 2012 #58

I use honey for allergies hfojvt Feb 2012 #60

I've done that in the past xmas74 Feb 2012 #71

that's probably because it doesn't have a neutral sweet taste.... mike_c Feb 2012 #61

I know you're not picking a fight. xmas74 Feb 2012 #72

I quite agree with you on that. Crunchy Frog Feb 2012 #50

Agave syrup is really bad -- up to 90% fructose -- much worse than HFCS FarCenter Feb 2012 #54

yup, it's marketed as a "natural" replacement sweetener and it's worse than HFCS.... mike_c Feb 2012 #62

That's not really true obamanut2012 Feb 2012 #109

The reason that it has a low glycemic index is that it contains mostly fructose and little glucose FarCenter Feb 2012 #126

Scientists would specify what sugar they were talking about bhikkhu Feb 2012 #17

They did, but editorial decisions suck at times nadinbrzezinski Feb 2012 #70

At what age can we stop listening to experts? undeterred Feb 2012 #20

yes, let's talk about sugar, and not all the chemicals and other crap that is in our food and our niyad Feb 2012 #23

Hey, I have a better idea! Let's multitask and talk about all that stuff. renie408 Feb 2012 #29

+1 HuckleB Feb 2012 #33

Well to be exact they are talking of HCFS nadinbrzezinski Feb 2012 #68

No, they're attacking added sucrose too muriel_volestrangler Feb 2012 #87

Oh my God, how did I ever live to a ripe ol' age? demosincebirth Feb 2012 #24

How old are you? I am shooting for a healthy 100. renie408 Feb 2012 #28

We should have been dead 40 years ago. I'm heading to a healthy 75. 100, eh? Congrats. I eat demosincebirth Feb 2012 #114

Oh my GOD! Aren't pointless anecdotes AWESOME! HuckleB Feb 2012 #31

The No Fun Gestapo At It Again I See NeedleCast Feb 2012 #34

Nice logical fallacy you've offered up! HuckleB Feb 2012 #37

Video on the topic by the authors of the Nature editorial: HuckleB Feb 2012 #36

A MUCH better link to the story about this editorial in NATURE... HuckleB Feb 2012 #41

Capitalism at its finest! cbrer Feb 2012 #45

Wow! HuckleB Feb 2012 #47

Nah. Patronize your local bakery instead. 2ndAmForComputers Feb 2012 #49

Sugar, starch and fat -- the three major food groups! FarCenter Feb 2012 #55

You forgot bacon. Crunchy Frog Feb 2012 #139

K&R burrowowl Feb 2012 #52

having too much dihydrogen monoxide will kill you, too. provis99 Feb 2012 #53

Beat me to it. hobbit709 Feb 2012 #90

High Fructose Corn Syrup nadinbrzezinski Feb 2012 #66

It's not just HFCS. HuckleB Feb 2012 #69

Other experts will tell you that is baloney Major Nikon Feb 2012 #77

It is all the combined crap we put in food nadinbrzezinski Feb 2012 #111

I blame the bees. The original peddlers of fructose. nt Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #134

Sucrose is the same. It still has fructose. Paulie Feb 2012 #78

No it does not nadinbrzezinski Feb 2012 #112

Sure it does Major Nikon Feb 2012 #128

Read what you wrote, second paragraph nadinbrzezinski Feb 2012 #129

Read what you wrote Major Nikon Feb 2012 #131

Well to each it's own nadinbrzezinski Feb 2012 #135

It's not exactly the same, but the effect on your body is pretty much identical Major Nikon Feb 2012 #130

Just what we need. ohheckyeah Feb 2012 #80

I have an alcoholic family member. Akoto Feb 2012 #84

It does, just takes years to show Paulie Feb 2012 #88

Then I must ask how long, because ... Akoto Feb 2012 #123

The best nutritional decision I made was giving up refined sugars. BlueIris Feb 2012 #94

I did that about 25 years ago and have not regretted it slackmaster Feb 2012 #117

I've finally found a group to be called 'Health Nazis': adults intimidating children at convenience muriel_volestrangler Feb 2012 #95

Good grief! HappyMe Feb 2012 #98

Use the google to search the term "food desert." nadinbrzezinski Feb 2012 #118

So alcohol is just as safe as sugar..... excellent news! Nye Bevan Feb 2012 #103

Another topic on which everyone is an expert. Dreamer Tatum Feb 2012 #104

lol! Dream on, DreamerT! HappyMe Feb 2012 #105

....water can kill you if you drink too much of it in one sitting. Occulus Feb 2012 #108

I say add a huge tax to sugar just like is on tobacco and alcohol. bighart Feb 2012 #106

I use very little refined sugar, but this is the dumbest "sciencey" thing I've read in a long time. slackmaster Feb 2012 #113

Why are folks not getting informed on this before posting uninformed comments? Swede Feb 2012 #115

Fine...how do I get all this sugar out of my blood? Rex Feb 2012 #119

Just take an insulin overdose. Crunchy Frog Feb 2012 #140

Alcohol isn't regulated because it's toxic Spike89 Feb 2012 #120

+ one million - a cool breeze of reason. nt Dreamer Tatum Feb 2012 #121

Sugar in what form? Sucrose? Fructose? Glucose? Avalux Feb 2012 #124

This should be a lesson to us all not to trust some scientists Yo_Mama Feb 2012 #125

A doughnut wouldn't affect my ability to drive IDemo Feb 2012 #137

True, true, such as death. Yo_Mama Feb 2012 #141

Ok, drink sucralose (Splenda) and aspartame (Nutrasweet) and see what happens. roamer65 Feb 2012 #133

I've been drinking diet sodas since their advent to good effect! Doomy_Tunes Dec 2017 #143

A minimum drinking age for pop is stupid fujiyama Feb 2012 #136