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zipplewrath

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12. Not exactly consistent with history

Thu Mar 28, 2013, 03:34 PM

Mar 2013

When the industrial revolution started, the people flowed into the cities and factories. Life on the farm was VERY hard, especially subsistence farming. Failures were VERY common.

The prospect of getting a "days pay for a days work" was very enticing. The problem was basically once there were enough workers, they began to "compete" with each other for work. In a subsitence farming model, there is no competition. In the industrialized society, it is structured to foster competition, and demand failures.

Labor unions were designed to create a "barganing power" to compete with that of the employers. They employers were in a superior barganing position for wages and working conditions and so you had the predictable result. Unions could and did give the workers a commensurate barganing position with the employer and were able to get wages appropriate to the labor produced.

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If your business model is built on virtual slave labor - your biz deserves to fail [View all] ZRT2209 Mar 2013 OP

Agree Vincardog Mar 2013 #1

What if my Slaves are Virtual Ones? I own a copy of "The Sims" I work them without mercy. Katashi_itto Mar 2013 #43

Slave Labor mentality is Un-American. raging moderate Mar 2013 #2

Slave owner mentality is now embodied in the 1%. lark Mar 2013 #3

They definitely don't believe in God. Right on. n/t dogknob Mar 2013 #9

^^^^^This^^^^^ love_katz Mar 2013 #16

Instead of... DirtyDawg Mar 2013 #4

And, does Papa John leftieNanner Mar 2013 #33

And don't forget those Walmart syblings brush Mar 2013 #37

Still hoping this hurt his business... Phentex Mar 2013 #42

One of my favorite passages.... BrainDrain Mar 2013 #5

+1 ZRT2209 Mar 2013 #6

Not exactly consistent with history zipplewrath Mar 2013 #12

It's very consistent... vrp Mar 2013 #17

Oh I recognized it zipplewrath Mar 2013 #24

Well vrp Mar 2013 #32

Gotta agree with VRP BrainDrain Mar 2013 #41

And, you've completely ignored the causes of the negatives you overstate. n/t Egalitarian Thug Mar 2013 #39

Classic vrp Mar 2013 #14

guilty as charged BrainDrain Mar 2013 #40

Welcome to DU tkmorris Mar 2013 #21

Like Chris Rock said about the minimum wage: nonoxy9 Mar 2013 #7

And Harrison Ford once said, Brigid Mar 2013 #18

One of the Right's biggest problems; they're BAD BUSINESS people, WEALTHFARE addicts. nt patrice Mar 2013 #8

US Senator Ron Johnson uses prisoners. That way the State feeds them, provides their shelter... Scuba Mar 2013 #10

Lincoln Freed the Slaves LittleGirl Mar 2013 #11

These big international corporations do fine under the labor laws in Europe.... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #13

Slavery... vrp Mar 2013 #15

Excellent point KT2000 Mar 2013 #19

Kicking. love_katz Mar 2013 #20

Especially if the business is human trafficking. n/t ChazII Mar 2013 #22

K&R midnight Mar 2013 #23

Exactly. Paying taxes and paying employees is the cost of doing business. FSogol Mar 2013 #25

yes. there is no entitlement to free labor. ZRT2209 Mar 2013 #27

cc: Porta John's Pizza Blue Owl Mar 2013 #26

I agree 100% jeffrey_pdx Mar 2013 #28

but, who's gonna do the dirty work onethatcares Mar 2013 #29

British philosopher The Wizard Mar 2013 #30

OMG! vrp Mar 2013 #34

Wish I could rec this more than once! TheUnspeakable Mar 2013 #31

Amen! ReRe Mar 2013 #35

Tell it to Hillary's friends on the Board of Directors at Walmart, please. grahamhgreen Mar 2013 #36

Not slaves. Slaves are assets, and as such require a minimum of care and maintenance. Egalitarian Thug Mar 2013 #38

Yes, workers should be treated and paid well, but I disagree employers should provide healthcare BrotherIvan Mar 2013 #44

I'm fucking sick of hearing about psychopathic CEOs treating workers like shit! Initech Mar 2013 #45