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COLGATE4

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121. Other than to point out the painfully

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 09:02 AM

Mar 2013

obvious. Prohibiting the sale of one class of magazine is not the same as prohibiting an entire class of weapon (hand gun). Prohibitions on firearms are as old as the Republic itself. And, as Scalia points out in Heller "nothing in our opinion should be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions... on the commercial sale of arms." District of Columbia v Heller, 26.

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Hunters Begin Boycott Over Colorado Gun Laws [View all] Peter cotton Mar 2013 OP

Fuck them...if they can't see the need for such legislation they can go joeybee12 Mar 2013 #1

+1 ellisonz Mar 2013 #61

lol @ "hunting" Earth_First Mar 2013 #2

With staff to recover the animal, dress, prepare and cook it... Archaic Mar 2013 #15

This ought to be good for Colorado. Will be safer and have more game. nt kelliekat44 Mar 2013 #99

I don't know any hunters who will be offended by Colorado's gun laws .... Scuba Mar 2013 #3

Pretty worthless hunters if they need a 30 round magazine to shoot a deer. Good riddance. denverbill Mar 2013 #4

Today's stealth super-deers are not your grandfather's deer. onehandle Mar 2013 #5

30-round magazines have NEVER been legal for hunting in Colorado. You should know that. slackmaster Mar 2013 #10

Post removed Post removed Mar 2013 #14

Numerous gun nutters on DU have said that hunters use assault weapons and big mags kestrel91316 Mar 2013 #21

Only for hunting varmints. slackmaster Mar 2013 #30

Arizona does not restrict magazine capacity for hunting. It also allows suppressors (silencers) Peter cotton Mar 2013 #38

Are you sure? sl8 Mar 2013 #100

It's a very recent change, it only took effect last year. Peter cotton Mar 2013 #111

Thank you. n/t sl8 Mar 2013 #112

yep. my old man used a bolt action 30-30. frylock Mar 2013 #31

Assault weapons are fairly popular for small game. Big magazines are usually illegal for hunting Recursion Mar 2013 #44

The states I have hunted in limit magazine size for game animals as well pediatricmedic Mar 2013 #57

Both Texas and Arizona allow you to hunt with any number of rounds in the magazine. Peter cotton Mar 2013 #60

Less hunting pressure will equal more game ... Botany Mar 2013 #6

Sure hope the animals are participating in the boycott as well bullwinkle428 Mar 2013 #7

Yay otohara Mar 2013 #8

Think I'll be vacationing in Colorado. Won't have to risk being shot sinkingfeeling Mar 2013 #9

The new laws have no effect at all on what kinds of weapons that people can use for hunting. slackmaster Mar 2013 #12

Uhh, if hunters are boycotting Colorado... sadbear Mar 2013 #17

Do you believe they're all going to boycott Colorado, and that nobody who lives there will hunt? slackmaster Mar 2013 #27

Of course not. sadbear Mar 2013 #34

I see nothing hypocritical in boycotting a state that infringes on peoples' civil rights. slackmaster Mar 2013 #36

It would hypocritical if they called for a boycott, but didn't actually boycott. sadbear Mar 2013 #37

People on both sides of every recent Presidential election have said they'd leave the country... slackmaster Mar 2013 #39

So you think it's a bullshit bluff, too, then? sadbear Mar 2013 #41

Sure, in some cases slackmaster Mar 2013 #42

Sorry, guns aren't a "civil right." Hoyt Mar 2013 #40

Neither is a computer. Peter cotton Mar 2013 #45

Defense is not a civil right either. Gun crowd tries hard to equate their poor, pitiful gun plight Hoyt Mar 2013 #53

I think those who argue that people don't have a right to self-defense should be ashamed. Peter cotton Mar 2013 #55

Not necessarily with a gun you don't. Hoyt Mar 2013 #66

What are we supposed to use? Peter cotton Mar 2013 #67

You sound so pitiful asking that question. Jeebus, there are lots of ways beside guns. Hoyt Mar 2013 #70

So what should a senior citizen (just as an example) use? Peter cotton Mar 2013 #71

Are you a senior citizen who considers themselves prey? Hoyt Mar 2013 #73

I'm not a senior citizen (yet), but I'm starting to get up there in age; as for being prey... Peter cotton Mar 2013 #75

First, senior citizens are often on meds that alter judgement. Hoyt Mar 2013 #78

So are screenwriters. N/T beevul Mar 2013 #88

I've had good luck with this, until things escalated. bluedigger Mar 2013 #95

So why do we have police, courts and prisons? Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2013 #68

One of many reasons -To keep those with guns from playing jesus, judge, jury, and executioner. Hoyt Mar 2013 #69

Except owning a gun is not illegal and never has been except in rare cases. Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2013 #72

Lots of things are legal, but best left undone. I think society has a say. Hoyt Mar 2013 #89

Except you don't think society has a say because everytime political pressure Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2013 #96

Fine -- why do you live in fear of needing a gun(s)? Hoyt Mar 2013 #97

What fear? When I put my seat-belt on I'm not in fear of a car accident. Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2013 #98

Where do you live, Syria? IveWornAHundredPants Mar 2013 #110

Well said. (nt) Paladin Mar 2013 #113

and just what infringement of a 'civil right' might that be? COLGATE4 Mar 2013 #64

The right to keep and bear arms. Something explicitly mentioned in the Constitution, unlike... slackmaster Mar 2013 #65

Where is the 'infringement' of that civil right? COLGATE4 Mar 2013 #74

A reduction in choices available to the individual constitutes an infringement. slackmaster Mar 2013 #83

Nope. Not in the law, anyway. COLGATE4 Mar 2013 #87

Regulation isn't infringement. An outright BAN is. slackmaster Mar 2013 #102

It's only a regulation as to how many rounds COLGATE4 Mar 2013 #103

Nonsense. It's a ban on importating or selling magazines that can hold more than the limit. slackmaster Mar 2013 #104

Well, you know the saying that 'everyone is COLGATE4 Mar 2013 #106

A ban is a ban. Even machine guns aren't banned at the federal level. slackmaster Mar 2013 #109

OK. If you say so... COLGATE4 Mar 2013 #114

DC v. Heller and McDonald v. Chicago both found handgun bans to be unconstitutional. :-) slackmaster Mar 2013 #115

Are you really trying to argue that banning certain magazines COLGATE4 Mar 2013 #117

Do you have any rational explanation of why it's not the same thing? slackmaster Mar 2013 #118

Other than to point out the painfully COLGATE4 Mar 2013 #121

So tell us which SCOTUS ruling has said as such. brentspeak Mar 2013 #90

Too easy. Please see reply #115. slackmaster Mar 2013 #116

Nope. brentspeak Mar 2013 #120

Militia don't for get your right to be in a well upaloopa Mar 2013 #82

They're not going to be there if they're boycotting the state. sinkingfeeling Mar 2013 #50

Hunting is a sport. Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2013 #11

The magazine capacity limit for deer hunting with rifles in Colorado has always been five rounds slackmaster Mar 2013 #13

Deer hunters use rifles out West. Shotguns are for forest hunting of whitetails in the East. kestrel91316 Mar 2013 #22

I don't think shotguns are used much in CO for deer hunting. MineralMan Mar 2013 #24

Yeah, at least in MS we only ever used shotguns for rabbits and various birds Recursion Mar 2013 #46

While buckshot is still occasionally used for deer hunting, its primary purpose these days Peter cotton Mar 2013 #47

or a Helicopter otohara Mar 2013 #43

Feral hogs all need to be killed off NickB79 Mar 2013 #48

This Wasn't About Ridding Texas of Ferrel Pigs otohara Mar 2013 #49

This is mainly for eradication of hogs for farmers, and Eleanors38 Mar 2013 #92

Hog control weaponry has gone over to semi-auto rifles... Eleanors38 Mar 2013 #91

Wow, the good news keeps rolling in for Colorado. sadbear Mar 2013 #16

Is there some downside to this? 99Forever Mar 2013 #18

Don't let the door hit your butt on the way out. nt bemildred Mar 2013 #19

Gun nuts leaving Colorado? As if I needed any more incentive to move there... Erose999 Mar 2013 #20

Fewer gun nuts and *that referendum* from last November Kolesar Mar 2013 #29

Deer and Elk Applaud Madly! MineralMan Mar 2013 #23

I hate hunting, so I applaud along with the deer and elk. n/t RebelOne Mar 2013 #62

good riddance n/t librechik Mar 2013 #25

This is actually very good news Tempest Mar 2013 #26

When I lived in CO we locals were never terribly impressed by the folks who kestrel91316 Mar 2013 #28

There's a rivalry between Colorado and Texas going back to the Civil War Kolesar Mar 2013 #33

Colorado should advertise...more game and safer experience for real hunters Fresh_Start Mar 2013 #32

i thought that gun fuckers hated the fudds? frylock Mar 2013 #35

By definition, if they care about detachable magazine, they are not Fudds. aikoaiko Mar 2013 #56

Fantastic! What unexpectedly good "fallout...!" villager Mar 2013 #51

Except they're not. Robb Mar 2013 #52

Your link to the Magpul story doesn't say they're keeping their non-magazine operations in Colorado. Peter cotton Mar 2013 #54

"Hunters across the country are now boycotting Colorado because of the recent legislation." WilliamPitt Mar 2013 #58

and Colorado wildlife does a mass high-5 SoCalDem Mar 2013 #59

Awesome. Having lived and hunted here in CO, I have never been impressed with Autumn Mar 2013 #63

I'll really miss following their clapped out RVs on the highway. bluedigger Mar 2013 #76

Magpul or marijuana? Peter cotton Mar 2013 #77

Ha! bluedigger Mar 2013 #81

Good soon you won't have anywhere to go upaloopa Mar 2013 #79

Fewer "slob hunters", more game for Colorado hunters. . . DinahMoeHum Mar 2013 #80

And Colorado wildlife jumps for joy. nt frogmarch Mar 2013 #84

OMG! Fewer jerks drinking our beer, smoking our dope and leaving their shells behind? politicat Mar 2013 #85

Great. Now hikers and mountain climbers and wilderness lovers that don't have to worry bluestate10 Mar 2013 #86

YES!!!!!111!!1! Phillip McCleod Mar 2013 #93

gawd i love your posts everybody. Phillip McCleod Mar 2013 #94

Well, there are always drones... KansDem Mar 2013 #101

For other reasons, Colorado is looking at a bannner year for tourism bhikkhu Mar 2013 #105

Good. ellie Mar 2013 #107

In the home of the aurora shooting..... musical_soul Mar 2013 #108

That is fantastic! Congrats Colorado! morningfog Mar 2013 #119