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In reply to the discussion: If women have to get their tits out to make a point, so be it. [View all]DURHAM D
(32,793 posts)294. I am a real second waver and I am
against neither of those things. Never have been and don't know anyone in the movement who was/is.
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yeah. young women should always "get their tits out" to bring attention to their concerns
elehhhhna
Mar 2013
#3
What's wrong with tits? Wha's wrong to use them to emphasise the message? You DO get it why
idwiyo
Mar 2013
#100
Sadly many of us do I work and am related to quite a few guys who can't make a point without
Arcanetrance
Mar 2013
#7
Sadly only half kidding I have a couple people one a friend and the other a cousin
Arcanetrance
Mar 2013
#28
They should, but too many have small ones and they couldn't stand the comparisons, LOL.
whathehell
Mar 2013
#177
this is like the 4th of these threads. always posted by a man. always, a man opposed to feminists
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#9
like theres not a dozen more important things they could be doing "sticking their finger in the...
bettyellen
Mar 2013
#32
yes. cause really, women must use their sexuality ALWAYS in order to be heard. but wait....
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#66
no, it is not irrelevant, mens behavior. when a man says, nudity is not a deal, then hubba hubba a
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#74
it's true, he's critiquing this protester slightly less crudely than if he were at at strip bar.
bettyellen
Mar 2013
#81
WTF does your daughter's naked breasts have to do with human rights in Tunisia?
bettyellen
Mar 2013
#109
so human rights issues boil down to walking around naked at home? thanks for proving this protest
bettyellen
Mar 2013
#120
Your pointing and laughing is the first step down that road that leaves her covered up
bettyellen
Mar 2013
#134
But apparently they don't see it as being as "safe" as you do, because they have not taken you
Squinch
Mar 2013
#271
Good job in being insufferable and arrogant enough to presume that you know more about his family
opiate69
Mar 2013
#356
I don't have to listen to stupid stuff like that. Because its degrading and very very stupid.
idwiyo
Mar 2013
#442
I will keep saying that what you trying to imply is degrading and stupid. You stopped short of
idwiyo
Mar 2013
#463
Your implication is absolutely clear. I did say you stopped short of calling him names.
idwiyo
Mar 2013
#478
I am amazed that you are not even remotely disturbed that the first thought forming in your
idwiyo
Mar 2013
#490
No, people aren't normally this cruel. You need to think about how you treat others.
polly7
Mar 2013
#471
Many years have gone by since I took high school algebra... I still remember how to factor equations
opiate69
Mar 2013
#397
So.. the length of iverglas' absence has fuck-all to do with whether or not her tactics are still
opiate69
Mar 2013
#413
Please, do not EVER EVER EVER go anywhere near Canary Islands. You will scare the people
idwiyo
Mar 2013
#434
Dressing as one wants includes wearing nothing, or wearing whatever they hell they want.
polly7
Mar 2013
#452
It doesn't bloody matter if he is nudist or not. What matters is that YOU think it's inappropriate.
idwiyo
Mar 2013
#456
What is creepy that so many people are programmed to think its not appropriate to be naked.
idwiyo
Mar 2013
#474
so why doesn't he get naked and invite some other family to get naked ? how about some guys
JI7
Mar 2013
#479
You should seriously think about what you have just said and implied. I am sorry for you that
idwiyo
Mar 2013
#494
Thousands (if not millions) of happy, well-adjusted naturalists would disagree.. but.. of course,
opiate69
Mar 2013
#385
I think they're probably well-adjusted girls who would be creeped out by you. nt.
polly7
Mar 2013
#407
You said next, he'd be encouraging them to go around the block topless, did you not???
polly7
Mar 2013
#429
Your daughters are lucky girls to have such a trusting relationship with their father.
polly7
Mar 2013
#374
What if, what if! Yeah, I can see why you have to introduce bullshit to make it worse.
polly7
Mar 2013
#394
Nobody's trying to change your opinion. Just respond to your ugly allegations. nt.
polly7
Mar 2013
#457
One who has a greater intellectual understanding of such things than you, apparently.
randome
Mar 2013
#451
It must have been some pretty messed-up musings if even bostonbean saw fit to delete them.
Kurovski
Apr 2013
#551
I think you just found a literary device that can mimic the experience of pychosis.
Kurovski
Apr 2013
#555
Hope you would be ready for The DSS regarding what you told your daughter.
Little Star
Mar 2013
#340
I didn't harass you, I replied to your harassment. (No comment on the 'pm('s)?)
polly7
Sep 2014
#589
Makes perfect sense for me! Sorry you can't accept being that unimportant to me (well, not really).
polly7
Sep 2014
#596
I agree 100%. Not all nudity is about dirty minds, oppression, subjugation, sexism.
loudsue
Mar 2013
#220
it's to spur conversation and translate that into action. You drooling is NOT the desired outcome.
bettyellen
Mar 2013
#88
You make the crass assumption her protest is to solicit your many opinions on looking at breasts.
bettyellen
Mar 2013
#117
tit jokes are "observations" now? LOL, you mock the nudity and then get self righteous defending it
bettyellen
Mar 2013
#128
The irony of that in relation to Femen is, Femen are clearly second wavers.
stevenleser
Mar 2013
#133
Those are some of the defining differences between second and third wave feminism.
stevenleser
Mar 2013
#310
Rush Limbaugh can call himself a Democrat and has every right to do so. Its a free country.
stevenleser
Mar 2013
#332
Yeah, if you can find someone to buy what you are trying to sell me, let me know.
stevenleser
Mar 2013
#354
i was asked to come into this thread because a woman poster smells a rat. you have issue with that?
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#50
it is clear what your intent was. i was pretty damn sure, you continually reinforce. little games,
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#65
I'm getting so sick of people who tar the word "feminism" by associating it
Pab Sungenis
Mar 2013
#184
Is there a clearer way to say this? I honestly don't know what the meaning or intent is. (nt)
Kurovski
Mar 2013
#347
ahhh, we get your one little post after your OP. and what is it? this. confirmation. nt
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#61
And yet dozens of misandrist rape threads that blame men, but never the women that raised them, are
RC
Mar 2013
#123
I don't think men here are opposed to feminists. Just some people on here and how they react
The Straight Story
Mar 2013
#167
Thank you...Too bad your message is too smart for the room, so to speak. n/t
whathehell
Mar 2013
#254
There comes a time when whatever needs to be said to make a point will be done.
In_The_Wind
Mar 2013
#10
yes. ridicule. or snark. or crude jokes. yes, a perfect example how effective this
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#36
"I would be lying if I didn't say I enjoy looking at her nude body" you just have to let everyone
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#43
you reinforced the point i make by your own behavior and comments in this thread. nt
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#53
oh please- the "two points" joke is totally a childish joke about their bodies.
bettyellen
Mar 2013
#46
you overestimate our interest in your preferences, LOL. Don't give a shit that you enjoy
bettyellen
Mar 2013
#75
I believe I've made some other points in this thread that rise a bit above that 7th grade level.
randome
Mar 2013
#83
thank you. this is perfectly said. i said what i had to in this thread, now the gigglin' men will
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#84
yes, because the truth of the 7th grade mindset is too fucking sad to acknowledge....
bettyellen
Mar 2013
#87
I wouldn't condemn anyone for proudly using their own body to advance any worthwhile cause.
polly7
Mar 2013
#12
And the young woman in the article is confronting the source of sexism, while you continue to worry
Kurovski
Mar 2013
#311
It's the message being spread, not the frickin' title of the article, people!!
Roland99
Mar 2013
#31
right. doing exactly what men expect of women. to pornify them. and when they do this in front of
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#42
This young girl is risking her LIFE. She knows it. She knows it is no world for her daughters to
loudsue
Mar 2013
#39
except the burning of the bra never really happened. it was a ploy used by the other side to cause
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#59
I would never condemn her. But I worry about her. It seems the only way she can have an impact
bettyellen
Mar 2013
#145
Her life and freedom are in danger for her daring to think and act independently
Roland99
Mar 2013
#54
Amina Tyler's Femen supporters declare Topless Jihad Day after death-by-stoning threats for topless
UnrepentantLiberal
Mar 2013
#55
and yet another person who can't be bothered to click a link and read a little.
Roland99
Mar 2013
#82
fine...only focus on the article's title then (the OP used the article's title...written by a woman)
Roland99
Mar 2013
#106
What a courageous woman - she should be an inspiration to progressives everywhere
Politicub
Mar 2013
#78
violence/rape/threats or porinified titty jokes. just depends the side the man wants to stand.
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#90
why havent i seen you addressing it the last two weeks it has been cheered on du? or anyone else
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#105
not really, things like Girls risking their lives by going to School does more to show
JI7
Mar 2013
#284
she was pointing out how men say they love strippers and then say degrading things....
bettyellen
Mar 2013
#135
which only reinforces the fact that she's ignoring the MESSAGE of the group's actions and, instead
Roland99
Mar 2013
#137
the article does debate whether these protests are effective because of the immature and sexist
bettyellen
Mar 2013
#143
Dishonest characterization. "Strippin" as in taking clothes off. Not "stripper" as in exotic dancing
redqueen
Mar 2013
#208
And the article under discussion is written by a preeminent young feminist who has an astounding
MADem
Mar 2013
#273
yes, additionally her message is in keeping with her choice of messaging
La Lioness Priyanka
Mar 2013
#141
Her closing line: "Fuck your morals, indeed. I may even get my own out in solidarity."
redqueen
Mar 2013
#157
Yes. How many of the Western images referenced in this thread are of women over 30?
Squinch
Mar 2013
#372
If by 'realistic' you mean 'seems logical enough for people with a tenuous grasp on logic to agree'
redqueen
Mar 2013
#162
Rape culture is everywhere, that's the point. This idea that 'puritanism' is some big issue
redqueen
Mar 2013
#186
I agree that a culture that condones or allows rape is an important thing to fight against
Roland99
Mar 2013
#192
Yes, the situation in the ME is quite different. But I didn't conflate them, the writer did.
redqueen
Mar 2013
#199
you conveniently chose the very last line, one written in a flippant manner by the author
Roland99
Mar 2013
#212
Not only that, but the FCCs crackdown in the aftermath of "NippleGate" is still observable..
opiate69
Mar 2013
#175
If men like you, Matt, want to talk about women's body parts, you need to lose the crude terminology
whathehell
Mar 2013
#166
and yet another person who can't be bothered to click a link and read a little.
Roland99
Mar 2013
#170
Right...For all your pissing & moaning about people "not reading the entire post"
whathehell
Mar 2013
#252
You showed your near illiteracy by not being able to understand the simple concept
polly7
Mar 2013
#287
I shudder to think what would happen if some of the horrified "HALP O NO NOOOD BOOBZ" folks
Warren DeMontague
Apr 2013
#539
Tell me about it. A couple years ago my Wife & I went out for Mother's Day Dinner, I think
Warren DeMontague
Apr 2013
#541
Interesting. I don't see anyone in western attire riding atop horses or bulls.
Roland99
Mar 2013
#229
fine...only focus on the article's title then (the OP used the article's title...written by a woman)
Roland99
Mar 2013
#235
Adults aren't offended by other people using language they themselves would not.
Occulus
Mar 2013
#529
How utterly juvenile, like you're trying to create a diversion from the topic
valerief
Mar 2013
#338
Aliaa Elmahdy protesting outside the Egyptian embassy in Stockholm, Sweden.
UnrepentantLiberal
Mar 2013
#327
Why don't Men ever have to pull out their parts to get Equal Pay, go to school without being SHot
JI7
Mar 2013
#288
Because if a man pulls out his penis, most women are going to run the other way
davidn3600
Mar 2013
#308
Women are FORBIDDEN by men to be topless in both Eastern and Western societies.
randome
Mar 2013
#320
why not ? people criticize Code Pink and some others with how they protest sometimes
JI7
Mar 2013
#328
I think you are projecting. If you can't handle multiple thoughts and impulses, you need
stevenleser
Apr 2013
#572
"Smart progressive women" aren't even allowed to go to school in many parts of the world.
Kurovski
Mar 2013
#461
You actually think that people engage in rape as a form of recreation during conferences?
JVS
Mar 2013
#526
people on facebook can sign this petition against the government killing her.
Kurovski
Mar 2013
#507
But where's the petition to express our 1st World Problems(tm) poutrage over the word tits?
DRoseDARs
Mar 2013
#511
I try not to put ppl on Ignore. This shit's too funny for that. Though, I'm going to break my nose..
DRoseDARs
Mar 2013
#513
Next time I want a lot of responses to my thread, the word "tits" goes in the subject line
steve2470
Apr 2013
#569